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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Axel" data-source="post: 5310800" data-attributes="member: 93196">I should note, there is no 'forcing' taking place.  There was a discussion around the lack of spontaneous healing spells.  The only Cleric we did have (now gone due to player departure) was a LN devotee of Wee-Jas (very effective in his own right), and lack of healing possibilities in general.  A Wand of Cure Light Wounds (or Lessor Vigor or whatever) is a valuable thing, but also ultimately limited. Figuring to advance my character's somewhat mysterious past I volunteered to take on Cleric levels.  It fits quite well.  So well I wishe I had thought of it at character creation and planned my abilities better.  Since I volunteered, I wrung an ability score adjustment out of the DM.  My Charisma is now no longer <10, with Wisdom buffed by removing points from Strength and Intelligence.  Playing 'flawed' characters is, I find, normally more fun than playing Superman with a minimum of 16 in each score.   I noted a lack of ranged power (sorry, effective ranged power.....) in the party when we were cut to ribbons along an open road by a handful of Gnolls (rather embarassing encounter really).  I also noted that with a Cleric level my character's melee power was...diminished.  Lower strength, less HP and missing a point of BAB made a bigger hole than I thought it would. Following the "ow I hurt session" I remembered reading on the boards here about a "cleric archer" that was supposedly quite effective.  Figuring to kill 2 birds with 1 stone I am canvassing possibilities (thought experiment really) and future potentials.  If I read correctly, the optimised build seems to revolve around Zen Archery; i.e. you get a primary physical attack and spell casting capability out of the same stat (suitable for "poorly statted" characters).  Carrying a smalle cache of special materials arrows to cover all eventualities was also something I had never thought of previously, and a most welcome suggestion. So, I think I've read what I was looking for - an optimised build for the oft-mentioned cleric archer.  I can take parts of the optimised build as I and the party can/need.  Thanks guys 'n' girls, you've been a big help.</blockquote>

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