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<blockquote data-quote="Zelc" data-source="post: 4585624" data-attributes="member: 40496"><p>I think you make a good point with regards to the fun issue. I still disagree with the Rogue issue though. I'm not trying to compare ranged Rogues with ranged Rangers, I'm comparing a melee Rogue to a ranged Ranger. A lot of the really good Rogue powers require a melee weapon, and the problem is a melee Rogue deals damage roughly equal to a ranged Ranger and the Ranger is much safer. The melee Rogue has a poor risk-reward tradeoff.</p><p></p><p>You may be right in that Hunter's Quarry should be left alone (and Warlock's Curse with it). I still think Prime Shot could still be changed to something that's less situational, more dynamic, and something the archer path could improve on.</p><p></p><p>I'm still annoyed over the wording though. The flavor is smooth: if you are close enough and have an clear shot at the target without having to shoot around your annoying fighter buddy, +1 attack! However, there is no term like line of sight or line of effect that determines whether a target has cover; there's just a totally separate test that is written out and hard to key off of. And while I could key it off of the line of effect rules (works if the line of effect to the target doesn't cross any no obstacles that grant cover or creatures), I have a feeling this is too generous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelc, post: 4585624, member: 40496"] I think you make a good point with regards to the fun issue. I still disagree with the Rogue issue though. I'm not trying to compare ranged Rogues with ranged Rangers, I'm comparing a melee Rogue to a ranged Ranger. A lot of the really good Rogue powers require a melee weapon, and the problem is a melee Rogue deals damage roughly equal to a ranged Ranger and the Ranger is much safer. The melee Rogue has a poor risk-reward tradeoff. You may be right in that Hunter's Quarry should be left alone (and Warlock's Curse with it). I still think Prime Shot could still be changed to something that's less situational, more dynamic, and something the archer path could improve on. I'm still annoyed over the wording though. The flavor is smooth: if you are close enough and have an clear shot at the target without having to shoot around your annoying fighter buddy, +1 attack! However, there is no term like line of sight or line of effect that determines whether a target has cover; there's just a totally separate test that is written out and hard to key off of. And while I could key it off of the line of effect rules (works if the line of effect to the target doesn't cross any no obstacles that grant cover or creatures), I have a feeling this is too generous. [/QUOTE]
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