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<blockquote data-quote="Magesmiley" data-source="post: 3184889" data-attributes="member: 26292"><p>Touching on the original question, I think part of the disadvantage a TWF has over an archer is that they usually need to put more feats/money in to get the same effect of an archer's multiple attacks. </p><p></p><p>Typically, including in your case, a TWF uses multiple different weapons due to the additional penalty to hit caused by not using a light weapon on the off hand. This can be countered with some feats, but the effect is often the TWF wielder either wields multiple light weapons (doing less damage) or more feats need to be spent to get some of the improvements such as weapon focus and weapon specialization. This is also true of magical weapons - the TWF has to spread the value around more, whereas the archer concentrates it into a single weapon.</p><p></p><p>On the flip side...</p><p>A TWF will, at higher levels, be able to dish out more attacks in a round than an archer. The big trick here is to concentrate on abilities that work the best with more attacks - sneak attack and favored enemy for example. In your case, it doesn't sound like the TWF had any of these going for him. The other catch is that the TWF will have lower attack rolls.</p><p></p><p>Also, a question...</p><p>Did the combatants have to waste actions drawing weapons? If they didn't, Quick Draw was an essentially useless feat for the TWF.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magesmiley, post: 3184889, member: 26292"] Touching on the original question, I think part of the disadvantage a TWF has over an archer is that they usually need to put more feats/money in to get the same effect of an archer's multiple attacks. Typically, including in your case, a TWF uses multiple different weapons due to the additional penalty to hit caused by not using a light weapon on the off hand. This can be countered with some feats, but the effect is often the TWF wielder either wields multiple light weapons (doing less damage) or more feats need to be spent to get some of the improvements such as weapon focus and weapon specialization. This is also true of magical weapons - the TWF has to spread the value around more, whereas the archer concentrates it into a single weapon. On the flip side... A TWF will, at higher levels, be able to dish out more attacks in a round than an archer. The big trick here is to concentrate on abilities that work the best with more attacks - sneak attack and favored enemy for example. In your case, it doesn't sound like the TWF had any of these going for him. The other catch is that the TWF will have lower attack rolls. Also, a question... Did the combatants have to waste actions drawing weapons? If they didn't, Quick Draw was an essentially useless feat for the TWF. [/QUOTE]
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