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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 5121810" data-attributes="member: 32164">I confess I found myself wondering the exact same thing. I think a careful reading of the intent of the PHB, Martial Power, and Martial Power 2 allows the Warlord to select Combat Leader or one of the alternatives (Battlefront Leader, Canny Leader, or Archer Warlord) AND any Commanding Presence Feature (Inspiring, Tactical, Resourceful, Bravura, Insightful or Skirmishing). Warlords also get Inspiring Word.Technically speaking, however, Archer Warlord doesn't say "this feature replaces your Combat Leader class feature," even if that's clearly how it's used in MP2. So I suppose you could give up your Commanding Presence (or Inspiring Word, but nobody would do that) class feature in order to take both Archer Warlord and Battlefront Leader, even if that seems odd. However, your character is splitting his focus by doing this, and your group loses out on the benefits that Commanding Presence provides. I'd say whether the cost is worth the versatility your character gains probably depends a great deal on your group and your DM. What is NOT legal is taking Archer Warlord, Battlefront Leader and also getting the benefit of a Commanding Presence feature. It may still be suboptimal, but for the cost of one feat, you could have better weapons AND better armor than any other warlord (and make str-based ranged basic attacks) without giving up anything. Suboptimal or not, that would be unfair.But if you want to give up a key class feature for it? Sure, why not? It's probably dumb, but I'd agree that it's legal.</blockquote>

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