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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 5122447" data-attributes="member: 32164">Indeed. And that's what I'm basing this on. From the "Suggested Options" section under "Skirmishing Warlord" in Martial Power 2, I quote:Note that this build very explicity contains only two class features in addition to Inspiring Word, just like every other one. The Skirmishing Warlord specifically says that archer warlord is a class feature you can select "instead of another option." In this case, Archer Warlord is selected in place of the PHB's Combat Leader feature, and Skirmishing Presence is the Commanding Presence selection. However, I freely admit that Archer Warlord does not explicitly state that it replaces your Combat Leader Class feature (although as I said, that IS how it's used in the sample build). So that leaves open the (IMO somewhat oddball) option of choosing Battlefront Leader to replace Combat Leader and choosing Archer Warlord in lieu of the Commanding Presence option.As I said, I think it's RAW legal to take Archer Warlord and Battlefront Leader and not have any Warlord Presence ability, and would allow that. I just don't think it's something the designers expected anyone to do. However, I do feel it's quite clear from what's written that Archer Warlord is an actual class feature that replaces one of your other options, and not just a proficiency swap.Actually, by my math an 18 INT makes hide equal to scale (+7), not plate (+8). Unless you mean that if you also carry a heavy shield, that you're actually as good as someone in plate and a light shield (+9).</blockquote>

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