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Archery Character - Ranger or Fighter?
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<blockquote data-quote="SteelDraco" data-source="post: 5620010" data-attributes="member: 359"><p>Mechanically, I don't think crossbows are ever worth it. You can't get a Strength crossbow like you can with a bow, and that's a huge problem. The reloading limitations are even worse. They'd have to be significantly better than a bow per shot to be worth it, and they're not.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Kaiyanwang - which is better depends on what you want to do. Straight damage output, go with a fighter. If you want to do more than just shoot a bow, I'd recommend ranger - they're significantly more flexible at a relatively minor cost to damage.</p><p></p><p>Rangers don't have any way to gain access to the Archer archetype's ability to perform combat maneuvers at range. That kinda stinks - I'd like to have my ranger/arcane archer disarm people or pin them to things (grapple attempts at range).</p><p></p><p>For everything else, I think the ranger is a better choice, especially if you're going to be in a wilderness area. The skills and spells are useful if you prepare properly. Favored Enemy obviously isn't as good as the Expert Archer in terms of damage output, since it's more situational, but FE applies to more than just attack and damage. Obviously, the feats help, especially once you can start taking Critical Focus feats, since an archer is going to pump out more attacks in a round than most melee characters. My arcane archer is already doing some very good damage at 8th level, probably the highest in the party, even more so if I use Ranger's Focus from the Guide archetype. He's a Ranger6/Wizard1/Arcane Archer1 right now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteelDraco, post: 5620010, member: 359"] Mechanically, I don't think crossbows are ever worth it. You can't get a Strength crossbow like you can with a bow, and that's a huge problem. The reloading limitations are even worse. They'd have to be significantly better than a bow per shot to be worth it, and they're not. I agree with Kaiyanwang - which is better depends on what you want to do. Straight damage output, go with a fighter. If you want to do more than just shoot a bow, I'd recommend ranger - they're significantly more flexible at a relatively minor cost to damage. Rangers don't have any way to gain access to the Archer archetype's ability to perform combat maneuvers at range. That kinda stinks - I'd like to have my ranger/arcane archer disarm people or pin them to things (grapple attempts at range). For everything else, I think the ranger is a better choice, especially if you're going to be in a wilderness area. The skills and spells are useful if you prepare properly. Favored Enemy obviously isn't as good as the Expert Archer in terms of damage output, since it's more situational, but FE applies to more than just attack and damage. Obviously, the feats help, especially once you can start taking Critical Focus feats, since an archer is going to pump out more attacks in a round than most melee characters. My arcane archer is already doing some very good damage at 8th level, probably the highest in the party, even more so if I use Ranger's Focus from the Guide archetype. He's a Ranger6/Wizard1/Arcane Archer1 right now. [/QUOTE]
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