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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5615778" data-attributes="member: 92305">This is probably our point of disagreement.&nbsp; I think a 1st level fighter, with a hand axe in each hand, can throw first one axe, switch hands, and throw a second axe, all within one combat round.&nbsp;And, I think a 1st level bowman, albeit with penalties, should be able to nock and loose two arrows in the same amount of time (takes equivalent effort, if you don't want to talk about time).&nbsp;And, the rules plain don't let you do that.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I would say no to the crossbow as I think it takes considerable time and effort to recock those buggers.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So you think that every time an axeman throws an axe from each hand, he's throwing them at the same time?&nbsp;Not necessarily.&nbsp;Especially if he's throwing at two different foes.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I would, but I think it would do no good, with you.&nbsp; You just plain don't see my point.&nbsp; I'll explain it, and&nbsp; you'll just ask me again to explain my logic, around we go in a circle.&nbsp;Go back and read some of my posts in this thread.&nbsp; It you can't get what I'm talking about from that, then I don't think you or I will benefit from hacking it apart any further.&nbsp;I know you're trying to help--at least I think you are.&nbsp; But, sometimes, for whatever reason, one side is cloudy.&nbsp; If you can get my point from the several posts I've written in this thread, then we can probably speak on this further.&nbsp; But, I think, if you and I just keep going around in this circle, it's just going to be frustrating for both of us.&nbsp;I do appreciate you trying, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5615778, member: 92305"] This is probably our point of disagreement. I think a 1st level fighter, with a hand axe in each hand, can throw first one axe, switch hands, and throw a second axe, all within one combat round. And, I think a 1st level bowman, albeit with penalties, should be able to nock and loose two arrows in the same amount of time (takes equivalent effort, if you don't want to talk about time). And, the rules plain don't let you do that. I would say no to the crossbow as I think it takes considerable time and effort to recock those buggers. So you think that every time an axeman throws an axe from each hand, he's throwing them at the same time? Not necessarily. Especially if he's throwing at two different foes. I would, but I think it would do no good, with you. You just plain don't see my point. I'll explain it, and you'll just ask me again to explain my logic, around we go in a circle. Go back and read some of my posts in this thread. It you can't get what I'm talking about from that, then I don't think you or I will benefit from hacking it apart any further. I know you're trying to help--at least I think you are. But, sometimes, for whatever reason, one side is cloudy. If you can get my point from the several posts I've written in this thread, then we can probably speak on this further. But, I think, if you and I just keep going around in this circle, it's just going to be frustrating for both of us. I do appreciate you trying, though. [/QUOTE]

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