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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 5620313" data-attributes="member: 13966">.............But to do so at 1st-level, the axe-thrower would need to throw 2 separate axes, one with each hand, as a full-round action.  An archer cannot physically hold and load and fire two bows simultaneously nor within a second or two of one another (short of using the Quick Draw feat and Rapid Shot or a +6 BAB instead of Rapid Shot, but even then they'd have to drop one bow before loading and firing the other).  If the axe-thrower wanted to throw 2 axes in the same turn with the same hand (not two-weapon fighting by wielding the axes in different hands), he or she would need Rapid Shot just like an archer at 1st-level (or just wait until they have a +6 BAB).  Per the rules as written.And I must ask: WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD?  You know that the rules do not technically allow 2 attacks per round at 1st-level without the Rapid Shot feat, and you've said that you're not talking about houseruling it or anything, and you just keep saying that the archer SHOULD, merely for reasons of time elapsed in a combat round, be able to shoot twice in one round regardless of level or feats.  And yes, it's an odd quirk of the rules that they can't do that per the RAW.SO WHAT?  What the heck is the discussion about?  Why didn't this thread die on its first page?  There is no point to it.  We've tried to explain the other factors that could explain why the rules have that little quirk, but in the end it doesn't matter.  The rules are what they are.  We can houserule them if and when we please.  We don't know the designers' specific intent or reasoning.  D&D has abstract combat rules, where turns are completed in-order rather than simultaneously despite all technically occuring within the same 6-second interval in-game.  So what?I've made all the points I can about how and why the rules may work the way they do on this matter, even noting the balance concerns that may have something to do with it, and many others have tried to explain or persuade you as well, Water Bob.  I just don't see the point of this thread or why it has persisted so long.*leaves in bewilderment*</blockquote>

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