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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7836535" data-attributes="member: 6987520">The progress of the spell levels is independent from other features that might be granted by the second-class archetype. The access to higher level spells don't have to coincide with when subclass features would normally be acquired.This does mean, in some cases, there would be no real new features at higher levels in some cases. But this is mostly true when the second-class archetype is a spellcaster. IMO, the spells are typically a feature enough.In the case of the Rogue (Wizard), I think delaying Arcane Recovery to 9th level would be good, and there really would be no features for 13th and 17th levels despite archetypes normally getting them at that point.Perhaps some small thing could be added, but I wouldn't really care personally if there wasn't. As I said, to me the higher level spells at 11th, 15th, and 19th are sufficient.It is a trade-off. If you want limited access to spells, but other AT and EK features to off-set, that is fine. I would rather have greater spell access, ritual casting, and arcane recovery. It is all a matter of preference. If it turns out updating AT and EK spell progression is too much, I can always revert it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7836535, member: 6987520"] The progress of the spell levels is independent from other features that might be granted by the second-class archetype. The access to higher level spells don't have to coincide with when subclass features would normally be acquired. This does mean, in some cases, there would be [I]no[/I] real new features at higher levels in some cases. But this is mostly true when the second-class archetype is a spellcaster. IMO, the spells are typically a feature enough. In the case of the Rogue (Wizard), I think delaying Arcane Recovery to 9th level would be good, and there really would be no features for 13th and 17th levels despite archetypes normally getting them at that point. Perhaps some small thing [I]could[/I] be added, but I wouldn't really care personally if there wasn't. As I said, to me the higher level spells at 11th, 15th, and 19th are sufficient. It is a trade-off. If you want limited access to spells, but other AT and EK features to off-set, that is fine. I would rather have greater spell access, ritual casting, and arcane recovery. It is all a matter of preference. If it turns out updating AT and EK spell progression is too much, I can always revert it. [/QUOTE]

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