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<blockquote data-quote="charlesatan" data-source="post: 3225852" data-attributes="member: 20870">Uh, when you're denying that the likes of T.H. White and le Guin aren't popular, I think your argument starts falling apart.I'll be honest: I haven't heard of Book of Three. But as pointed out, just because I haven't heard of it doesn't mean it wasn't popular.T.H. White and le Guin I've read recently (recently being the past four years) but even before that, I've heard of them.Once and Future King is yes, an Arthurian fantasy. It's perhaps not the definitive Arthurian tale (Le Mort de Arthur is) as is the case when you have an entire fantasy sub-genre, but it comes close. It's required reading for some lit classes, and the only other Arthurian fantasy that comes close to it is probably Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley. But feel free to disregard that fact as as you've said, Merlin has had many incarnations and variations (and for God's sakes, you have an entire sub-genre). But Once and Future King IS a popular novel, irregardless if we're just talking about fantasy or fiction in general.A Wizard of Earthsea and Ursula le Guin is one of mainstream fantasy's best-known titles and authors. Sure, you have Tolkien, but le Guin is probably next in line along with the likes of Moorcock and Leiber and Howard for example (although of course, Leiber and Howard precede her and Tolkien even). She's definitely more well-read than Vance and A LOT of people have cited her as influence, in the RPG industry or otherwise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="charlesatan, post: 3225852, member: 20870"] Uh, when you're denying that the likes of T.H. White and le Guin aren't popular, I think your argument starts falling apart. I'll be honest: I haven't heard of Book of Three. But as pointed out, just because I haven't heard of it doesn't mean it wasn't popular. T.H. White and le Guin I've read recently (recently being the past four years) but even before that, I've heard of them. Once and Future King is yes, an Arthurian fantasy. It's perhaps not the definitive Arthurian tale (Le Mort de Arthur is) as is the case when you have an entire fantasy sub-genre, but it comes close. It's required reading for some lit classes, and the only other Arthurian fantasy that comes close to it is probably Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley. But feel free to disregard that fact as as you've said, Merlin has had many incarnations and variations (and for God's sakes, you have an entire sub-genre). But Once and Future King IS a popular novel, irregardless if we're just talking about fantasy or fiction in general. A Wizard of Earthsea and Ursula le Guin is one of mainstream fantasy's best-known titles and authors. Sure, you have Tolkien, but le Guin is probably next in line along with the likes of Moorcock and Leiber and Howard for example (although of course, Leiber and Howard precede her and Tolkien even). She's definitely more well-read than Vance and A LOT of people have cited her as influence, in the RPG industry or otherwise. [/QUOTE]

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