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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 3226087" data-attributes="member: 307">At this point, I have to say that you really have no idea what you are talking about. The primary inspiration for D&amp;D, stated directly by Gygax, were the stories of Vance, Lieber, Burroughs, and Howard. Heck, you can go into those stories and see specific elements he lifted directly out of them. And that means that your &quot;fairy tale&quot; marketing theory is just so much hokum. He focused on the fantasy he did because it was the fantasy he liked. Nothing more.He even says that the handful of Tolkienesque elements he incorporated came much later, and that was a deliberate attempt to market the game. But even he said that the Tolkienesque veneer was so thin that anyone expecting Tolkien would be disappoineted, and that he hoped that once they played the game they would see how good it was and not need that any more.Except they aren't. Your theory doesn't match the evidence. You keep trying to claim it, but everyone, even people well-versed in anthropology and Jungian archetypes, thinks your theory is just way off-base.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 3226087, member: 307"] At this point, I have to say that you really have no idea what you are talking about. The primary inspiration for D&D, stated directly by Gygax, were the stories of Vance, Lieber, Burroughs, and Howard. Heck, you can go into those stories and see specific elements he lifted directly out of them. And that means that your "fairy tale" marketing theory is just so much hokum. He focused on the fantasy he did because it was the fantasy [i]he[/i] liked. Nothing more. He even says that the handful of Tolkienesque elements he incorporated came much later, and [i]that[/i] was a deliberate attempt to market the game. But even he said that the Tolkienesque veneer was so thin that anyone expecting Tolkien would be disappoineted, and that he hoped that once they played the game they would see how good it was and not need that any more. Except they aren't. Your theory doesn't match the evidence. You keep trying to claim it, but everyone, even people well-versed in anthropology and Jungian archetypes, thinks your theory is just way off-base. [/QUOTE]

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