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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3232089" data-attributes="member: 22779">Ahh, but compare the F/MU to a 9th level fighter and see how it falls out.&nbsp; Suddenly our F/MU is 8/10th.&nbsp; I've given up a level of fighter to gain TEN levels of magic-user.&nbsp; ((Note, it's been a while since I did this math, so someone please check))&nbsp; And, as SR has mentioned, that's entirely possible using Unearthed Arcana.I'll lose one level of fighter to gain 10 levels of wizard.&nbsp; Heck, IIRC, I can lose 2 levels of fighter and gain 9 levels of wizard and 10 levels of thief.&nbsp; The problem is JRR, magic user xp tables were REALLY wonky.&nbsp; They started high, then from about 5th to 10th, they rocketted up in levels.&nbsp; Then they level out again after that.&nbsp; Using a fighter xp baseline is a little more telling since fighter xp effectively doubles every level.And, put me solidly in the camp that almost never saw high level play.&nbsp; Heck, how many threads have there been about the &quot;sweet spot&quot; in gaming where everyone talks about how the best gaming ends at the low double digits?Actually, and I mean this as an honest question, what did you do at those high levels?&nbsp; What could challenge you?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3232089, member: 22779"] Ahh, but compare the F/MU to a 9th level fighter and see how it falls out. Suddenly our F/MU is 8/10th. I've given up a level of fighter to gain TEN levels of magic-user. ((Note, it's been a while since I did this math, so someone please check)) And, as SR has mentioned, that's entirely possible using Unearthed Arcana. I'll lose one level of fighter to gain 10 levels of wizard. Heck, IIRC, I can lose 2 levels of fighter and gain 9 levels of wizard and 10 levels of thief. The problem is JRR, magic user xp tables were REALLY wonky. They started high, then from about 5th to 10th, they rocketted up in levels. Then they level out again after that. Using a fighter xp baseline is a little more telling since fighter xp effectively doubles every level. And, put me solidly in the camp that almost never saw high level play. Heck, how many threads have there been about the "sweet spot" in gaming where everyone talks about how the best gaming ends at the low double digits? Actually, and I mean this as an honest question, what did you do at those high levels? What could challenge you? [/QUOTE]

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