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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7800028" data-attributes="member: 20564">There are a lot of suggestions that are just names.  They sound cool but aren't really explaining the concept - what types of archetype do they enable?  There are plenty of great ideas out there that D&D would need subclasses to build - but the point is trying to identify what 5e needs. JC said he's explored all the options - what reoccuring tropes are still missing?I was asking for an example character because an archetype is a recurrent symbol or motif in literature, art, or mythology. Being able to point at someone is a easy test of this vs. a cool idea to expand D&D, but not one required by D&D just to cover the bases.There have been lots of good ones already like the transforming barbarian. What other low hanging fruit can we find?</blockquote>