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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7802677" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Yeah, I can see the connection between Cleric and Bard.</p><p></p><p>I feel the main difference is, the Bard is an individual, whereas the Cleric is a collective.</p><p></p><p>The concept of the Bard is being an artist, a unique individual who authors and creates new realities.</p><p></p><p>Even when the concept of the Bard is being a shaman, it is still more like artist. Even in the prehistoric role of a shaman (including the historical Celtic bard), the shaman is a unique individual who reinvents and innovates. Essentially, the community is the audience of the shaman. The shaman specifically includes both the local human population and the surrounding nature spirits as parts within the wider community, literally preforming for both of them. Because of the shamans connection to different groups, the shaman can act as a mediator to help resolve any disputes between these different groups. One can see this role today among artists, popculture icons who can bring different groups together by means of their art, because of a broader point of view, of a wider community.</p><p></p><p>In any case, D&D seems on safe ground when emphasizing the flavor of the Bard as an artist, an author, an individual. The community is the audience.</p><p></p><p>By contrast, the Cleric is a collective. The Cleric takes on the identity of a specific community, its language, its symbols, its customs, its point-of-view. The community takes on a life of its own, a unique forceful reality of a unique point-of-view. The Cleric gains power from this ‘meta’. The meta is something like the Platonic realm of ideals, or ideas. The Cleric performs ceremonies and instructions to transmit this ‘meta’ to new adherents, who become able to enter this unique worldview. The adherents are literally entering into a new reality that is fabricated out of language. This meta is forceful and has power to do things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7802677, member: 58172"] Yeah, I can see the connection between Cleric and Bard. I feel the main difference is, the Bard is an individual, whereas the Cleric is a collective. The concept of the Bard is being an artist, a unique individual who authors and creates new realities. Even when the concept of the Bard is being a shaman, it is still more like artist. Even in the prehistoric role of a shaman (including the historical Celtic bard), the shaman is a unique individual who reinvents and innovates. Essentially, the community is the audience of the shaman. The shaman specifically includes both the local human population and the surrounding nature spirits as parts within the wider community, literally preforming for both of them. Because of the shamans connection to different groups, the shaman can act as a mediator to help resolve any disputes between these different groups. One can see this role today among artists, popculture icons who can bring different groups together by means of their art, because of a broader point of view, of a wider community. In any case, D&D seems on safe ground when emphasizing the flavor of the Bard as an artist, an author, an individual. The community is the audience. By contrast, the Cleric is a collective. The Cleric takes on the identity of a specific community, its language, its symbols, its customs, its point-of-view. The community takes on a life of its own, a unique forceful reality of a unique point-of-view. The Cleric gains power from this ‘meta’. The meta is something like the Platonic realm of ideals, or ideas. The Cleric performs ceremonies and instructions to transmit this ‘meta’ to new adherents, who become able to enter this unique worldview. The adherents are literally entering into a new reality that is fabricated out of language. This meta is forceful and has power to do things. [/QUOTE]
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