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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7805906" data-attributes="member: 6750235"><p>The basis for the class is Orion or the Huntresses of Diana. People were pointing to shamanistic hunters and beast handlers to demonstrate differences. The we got hunters and beast masters in a shamanistic warrior class.</p><p></p><p>Bards can be tribal shamans, roguish minstrels, the Celtic keepers of customary law, the Bard's Tale bard, the Greek warrior poet, the Polynesian kahuna, the skald, the court jester, the story teller, and more. </p><p></p><p>If I want to recreate Hoichi from <em>The Tale of the Heike </em>that's getting into another archetype of bards as we move into Asian mythologies.</p><p></p><p>Pythagoras is different from Taliesin is different from Hoichi is different from a court jester or herald. The class represents a lot in history and mythology. It's easy enough to argue those an be created in other ways but notable legendary bards and different types of bards paved the way for the class towing the party line. </p><p></p><p>It's the fluff that doesn't represent as much, and that's the easiest thing to change. 5e has it's typical fluff for every class but anyone can match the correct fluff for their character in their history and description.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: A one class system that builds through options is possible. So is a two class (spell caster / not spell caster) system. That doesn't feel like D&D, and I think the iconic classes ended up mattering just as much as justifying them. ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7805906, member: 6750235"] The basis for the class is Orion or the Huntresses of Diana. People were pointing to shamanistic hunters and beast handlers to demonstrate differences. The we got hunters and beast masters in a shamanistic warrior class. Bards can be tribal shamans, roguish minstrels, the Celtic keepers of customary law, the Bard's Tale bard, the Greek warrior poet, the Polynesian kahuna, the skald, the court jester, the story teller, and more. If I want to recreate Hoichi from [I]The Tale of the Heike [/I]that's getting into another archetype of bards as we move into Asian mythologies. Pythagoras is different from Taliesin is different from Hoichi is different from a court jester or herald. The class represents a lot in history and mythology. It's easy enough to argue those an be created in other ways but notable legendary bards and different types of bards paved the way for the class towing the party line. It's the fluff that doesn't represent as much, and that's the easiest thing to change. 5e has it's typical fluff for every class but anyone can match the correct fluff for their character in their history and description. EDIT: A one class system that builds through options is possible. So is a two class (spell caster / not spell caster) system. That doesn't feel like D&D, and I think the iconic classes ended up mattering just as much as justifying them. ;-) [/QUOTE]
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