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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7817863" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I suppose so does Marvel comics, that way. Odinism doesn't get a lot of recognition as a 'real' religion, even though it has legit believers, so that's part of a larger struggle. </p><p></p><p>I did not notice where the 5e PH had non-fiction deities, though - I just didn't parse it that closely. I certainly /did/ notice where 1e did, and somehow you're apparently OK with it, because you felt intellectually justified in tweaking the meaning of 'deity.' </p><p>So I really wonder about this whole line of criticism. </p><p></p><p>It is, and it doesn't bear much resemblance to the D&D take. It'd be a stretch to consider D&D an endorsement of RL polytheism. Rather like considering it Satanist back in the day. </p><p></p><p>As a depiction or RL neo-Paganism, though, it might well be considered insensitive.</p><p></p><p>D&D also says dragons are flying hyperintelligent dinosaurs that breath the rainbow. It can't claim much authority.</p><p></p><p>That said, it /is/ exactly the kind of unthinking assumption that slips by common sense and screws with people. </p><p></p><p>I think it'd be best-reconciled by acknowledging that D&D deities are simply fictional supernatural patrons for characters, not representative of real religions. Not gods in the sense theists, deists, Christians, &c may define God to be. </p><p></p><p>Sacred Band and Thelema, aside, of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7817863, member: 996"] I suppose so does Marvel comics, that way. Odinism doesn't get a lot of recognition as a 'real' religion, even though it has legit believers, so that's part of a larger struggle. I did not notice where the 5e PH had non-fiction deities, though - I just didn't parse it that closely. I certainly /did/ notice where 1e did, and somehow you're apparently OK with it, because you felt intellectually justified in tweaking the meaning of 'deity.' So I really wonder about this whole line of criticism. It is, and it doesn't bear much resemblance to the D&D take. It'd be a stretch to consider D&D an endorsement of RL polytheism. Rather like considering it Satanist back in the day. As a depiction or RL neo-Paganism, though, it might well be considered insensitive. D&D also says dragons are flying hyperintelligent dinosaurs that breath the rainbow. It can't claim much authority. That said, it /is/ exactly the kind of unthinking assumption that slips by common sense and screws with people. I think it'd be best-reconciled by acknowledging that D&D deities are simply fictional supernatural patrons for characters, not representative of real religions. Not gods in the sense theists, deists, Christians, &c may define God to be. Sacred Band and Thelema, aside, of course. [/QUOTE]
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