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<blockquote data-quote="paqqy" data-source="post: 5045155" data-attributes="member: 75432"><p>I had previously asked for some help with suggestions for playing an Archivist who might have had to multiclass due to some backstory elements. (<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/269597-archivist-cleric-help.html" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/269597-archivist-cleric-help.html</a>)</p><p></p><p>Well, it turns out that I was trying to optimize him with the use of three books, according to the DM rule that we were to use 2-3 books. It turns out that now we are only allowed TWO books (aside from PHB, DMG, and MM1) while the 3rd seems to be a choice in limbo and is equally as likely to happen as it is likely <em>*not*</em> to happen. What sucks the most is that playing the Archivist means that I automatically forfeit 1 book, leaving me with only 1 book other than the core books for my character options. And the Archivist class really seems to flourish (and dominate) with the use of (at least) three additional books, Complete Divine, Complete Champion, and Spell Compendium.</p><p></p><p>So, I come back to you, dear forum, for some help. </p><p></p><p>My possible books: Complete Champion, Complete Divine, Spell Compendium. My analysis so far is as follows:</p><p></p><p>The Spell Compendium is good for grabbing spells from Cleric/Druid/Paladin/Ranger spells and some nice domain spells, but with the ability to copy only a few new spells per level and no sure guarantee that I will be finding many scrolls, this might *not* be the most optimal use of a book. Also, there are no prestige classes or feats available in the Spell Compendium, which leaves me with only PHB feats, which I generally don't find all too helpful.</p><p></p><p>Divine: Contemplative for Domain Access and Sacred Exorcist for Turning Ability + DMM (Quicken or Extend?). Some OK spells to add to my spellbook.</p><p></p><p>Champion: Knowledge Devotion feat for attack bonuses based on Knowledge checks, Trickery Devotion feat for a simulacrum (RAW... sans errata), Lore of The Gods (second level spell that will give me a +10 to all my knowledge checks for 10 min/lvl, which include Dark Knowledge and Knowledge Devotion), plus a few scattered spells.</p><p></p><p>I'm also thinking that the further book restrictions put the archivist at a disadvantage... meaning that I may have to drop the Archivist altogether. There is a wiz/warlock going into eldritch theurge and a cleric in the party, the rest of the party are more melee (duskblade, hexblade, fighter, rogue). So an option might be Druid or Wizard (since the other arcan caster is stuck being 3 levels behind).</p><p></p><p>What do you guys think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paqqy, post: 5045155, member: 75432"] I had previously asked for some help with suggestions for playing an Archivist who might have had to multiclass due to some backstory elements. ([URL]http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/269597-archivist-cleric-help.html[/URL]) Well, it turns out that I was trying to optimize him with the use of three books, according to the DM rule that we were to use 2-3 books. It turns out that now we are only allowed TWO books (aside from PHB, DMG, and MM1) while the 3rd seems to be a choice in limbo and is equally as likely to happen as it is likely [I]*not*[/I] to happen. What sucks the most is that playing the Archivist means that I automatically forfeit 1 book, leaving me with only 1 book other than the core books for my character options. And the Archivist class really seems to flourish (and dominate) with the use of (at least) three additional books, Complete Divine, Complete Champion, and Spell Compendium. So, I come back to you, dear forum, for some help. My possible books: Complete Champion, Complete Divine, Spell Compendium. My analysis so far is as follows: The Spell Compendium is good for grabbing spells from Cleric/Druid/Paladin/Ranger spells and some nice domain spells, but with the ability to copy only a few new spells per level and no sure guarantee that I will be finding many scrolls, this might *not* be the most optimal use of a book. Also, there are no prestige classes or feats available in the Spell Compendium, which leaves me with only PHB feats, which I generally don't find all too helpful. Divine: Contemplative for Domain Access and Sacred Exorcist for Turning Ability + DMM (Quicken or Extend?). Some OK spells to add to my spellbook. Champion: Knowledge Devotion feat for attack bonuses based on Knowledge checks, Trickery Devotion feat for a simulacrum (RAW... sans errata), Lore of The Gods (second level spell that will give me a +10 to all my knowledge checks for 10 min/lvl, which include Dark Knowledge and Knowledge Devotion), plus a few scattered spells. I'm also thinking that the further book restrictions put the archivist at a disadvantage... meaning that I may have to drop the Archivist altogether. There is a wiz/warlock going into eldritch theurge and a cleric in the party, the rest of the party are more melee (duskblade, hexblade, fighter, rogue). So an option might be Druid or Wizard (since the other arcan caster is stuck being 3 levels behind). What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]
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