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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hopeless" data-source="post: 3138344" data-attributes="member: 36349">Reg: Paladin and honestyNo offence but from my point of view having the Paladin answer honestly would hve endangered his comrades, their mission and more importantly might leave him in the hands of a foe capable of turning him and maybe everything he knows to the villain's advantage.Now you're saying he HAS to answer honestly?In my view it would depend on whether he has a Intelligence AND wisdom score below 6... I liked those answers regarding roleplaying it, but I wouldn't have had guards asking, I would have had someone (or several someone's) stationed with items allowing them to detect good and law on anyone entering something like covering them in a sheath of silver and white for LG and whilst not all of them will be Paladins they would be kept under scrutiny whilst they were inside after all it would take then is a lackey of the villain with Telepathy or as the dm in the Faerun cmapign I had been involved in any demon or devil with the ability to speak with anyone in range being also able to read their minds (Which is why my cleric picked up a Ring of Mind Shielding the first chance he could).I assume they're talking about the City State of the Invincible Overlord?Glancing at that was almost as scary as either the Midnight setting or the Book of Vile Darkness (once I read enough of it to realise how stuffed players would be if the dm didn't understand d&d isn't Call of Cthulhu although Ravenloft might actually complain at that!)The closest to that kind of meta gming was when my LN cleric was asked for protection by the henchman of a then deceased villain after he had tried to takeover his master's settlement to which I told him that had he not committed himself to that task i migth have agreed to which the dm then decided I had agreed to his request and ignored the fact that i hadn't.At least in that example the dm was probably ignorant of the fact a Paladin is required to be humble as well as respectful of others, I've met some who believe they should be played as fanatical idiots with no respect for their comrades even after they had saved his life!In case you're wondering that player was the same dm I described above and whilst other threads have indicated he isn't alone in this misconception you have to understand that this explains why such a situation as that set by the example is quite possible.At worst the dm should have warned him if only to insure he doesn't use it as an excuse when the villain imperils an innocents life when he could save that innocent without endangering himself or his comrades with his actions but thats a story for another time.</blockquote>

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