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Are 4E Paladins and Clerics MAD?
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<blockquote data-quote="AtomicPope" data-source="post: 4207681" data-attributes="member: 64790"><p>I don't see how this would be different from any other classes that really want to mix it up. It's pretty much been that way for a long time. Fortunately unlike previous editions, we can build characters from the ground up and choose the one or two stats they'll need to be effective throughout their existance.</p><p></p><p>In 4e Paladins really have it easy. In all previous editions a Paladin needed good stats in everything but Int and a Phenomenal Charisma. That's 4 good stats, one uber stat, and only one dump stat. Furthermore, in all other editions everyone needed to have at least a 10 Constitution. In 3e it was suicidal to have less than a 12 Con for an adventurer, regardless of class. Now that's not the case. Fourth Edition has limited the stat requirement as an Absolute necessity more than ever.</p><p></p><p>If you investigate the At Will powers it will tell you how the class is designed. They typically give only two stats for their attack base. From the PHB Lite it seems that Clerics only <em>need </em> Wis, and Str is a "woundn't it be nice" stat. Paladins really only <em>need </em> Cha, since that's the focus for their powers, but Str would be nice. That's a far cry from 3e where everyone needed Str in HtH, Dex at Range, and Con to survive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtomicPope, post: 4207681, member: 64790"] I don't see how this would be different from any other classes that really want to mix it up. It's pretty much been that way for a long time. Fortunately unlike previous editions, we can build characters from the ground up and choose the one or two stats they'll need to be effective throughout their existance. In 4e Paladins really have it easy. In all previous editions a Paladin needed good stats in everything but Int and a Phenomenal Charisma. That's 4 good stats, one uber stat, and only one dump stat. Furthermore, in all other editions everyone needed to have at least a 10 Constitution. In 3e it was suicidal to have less than a 12 Con for an adventurer, regardless of class. Now that's not the case. Fourth Edition has limited the stat requirement as an Absolute necessity more than ever. If you investigate the At Will powers it will tell you how the class is designed. They typically give only two stats for their attack base. From the PHB Lite it seems that Clerics only [I]need [/I] Wis, and Str is a "woundn't it be nice" stat. Paladins really only [I]need [/I] Cha, since that's the focus for their powers, but Str would be nice. That's a far cry from 3e where everyone needed Str in HtH, Dex at Range, and Con to survive. [/QUOTE]
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