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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 671280" data-attributes="member: 944">How usefull armies are depends heavily on your game assumptionsa group of ten 10th level characters using good tactics and some magic items borrowed from the kingdom treasury could wipe out thousands of low level types. Things like Teleport w/o Error Rings, Protection from Arrows items and Rings of Sustenance make warfare very different from anything we can imagineIf epic level charcters become involved in your war whole cities may burn. Rain of Fire effects several miles  and there always are worse spells (magic resistant plagues, viral disintegration and more) My assumption is that the advent of wizards and other blasters  mean that mass formations are useless, instead you have small mobile attack teams to support high level types.Also Pike walls, Cavalry Charges (from Knights) Massed Archers, Big Infantry Walls and so on are useless. One guy with a 56000 magic items can launch unlimited l4, 7d fireballs-- even with a save a 7d fireball will autokill a l1 troop. Give him a ring of teleport w/o error,   few other items and unless you have high levels you will likely lose huge numbers of troopsI figure (judging by the PHB spells) magic is 3x to 1x offense to defenseAlso all kinds of spellcasters on the battlefield make huge changes, not just magesClerics and other healers  on the battlefield means either that war is more humane (healing+divine smackdown for wrong doing) or much worse (to the death everytime)  Throw in Teleport, illusion, move earth and stuff like that and well its mass confusion.Charm Person, Dominate and telepathy means you can't hide battle plansI leave you to figure the facts out.....As always YMMV</blockquote>

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