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<blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5695034" data-attributes="member: 6679380">The DMs job is not to trick the players... it is to provide a challenging fight or encounter.If something happens that would provide a penalty to a creature, it is common sense that they would know and the only override to this would be if intelligence was a factor.The key is that they would be made aware of the conditions within game and the only thing left is converting this awareness into an intelligent understanding.That could mean that in a monster group of a Beholder (very high int) and a zombie (very low int).. An Aura they are both presented with surrounding a PC that causes damage when entered, they would both be presented with the facts and the Beholder would understand it is not a good idea to move straight in and there is a big &quot;?&quot; over the Zombie - you could say he knew and you could argue that he didn't know, but you can do so because his intelligence would come into question.All in all however, most Auras or effects that are active and trigger on the creature doing something are known. It is important here to say effects that are active. An aura is active, a combat power with an after effect if the monster moves is active, an immediate reaction not been used (such as a player with the Shield spell) would not be active.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wlmartin, post: 5695034, member: 6679380"] The DMs job is not to trick the players... it is to provide a challenging fight or encounter. If something happens that would provide a penalty to a creature, it is common sense that they would know and the only override to this would be if intelligence was a factor. The key is that they would be made aware of the conditions within game and the only thing left is converting this awareness into an intelligent understanding. That could mean that in a monster group of a Beholder (very high int) and a zombie (very low int).. An Aura they are both presented with surrounding a PC that causes damage when entered, they would both be presented with the facts and the Beholder would understand it is not a good idea to move straight in and there is a big "?" over the Zombie - you could say he knew and you could argue that he didn't know, but you can do so because his intelligence would come into question. All in all however, most Auras or effects that are active and trigger on the creature doing something are known. It is important here to say effects that are active. An aura is active, a combat power with an after effect if the monster moves is active, an immediate reaction not been used (such as a player with the Shield spell) would not be active. [/QUOTE]

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