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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 6966624" data-attributes="member: 6670153">If you want a Bard that can compete with a necromancer use magical secrets to get animate dead and create undead and buff them with your inspiration and maybe protect them from turn undead with counter charm.&nbsp;If you want more of a Beguiler Bard, go Lore Bard with thief background and pick mostly spells that were on the Beguilers spell list and enchantment/illusion spells.&nbsp;If you want Warmage go Valour Bard and pick evocation spells with your magical secrets. Admittedly doesn't really kick in until higher levels without multiclassing Sorceror or Evoker.&nbsp;Want a more religious Bard, pick Acolyte background, focus on healing bard spells more, use magical secrets to cherry picks favourite divine spells, Religion expertise and Persausion Expertise or Insight, and feats that grant divine magic.&nbsp;Summoner Bard, pick Unseen Servant. Planar Binding, and use Magical Lore to cherry pick summoning spells, use inspiration and song of rest and counter charm to buff your summoned pets.&nbsp;Smiting Bard Valour Bard that takes smites and maybe Greenflame Blade and/or Booming blade. Bonus points if you get find steed too.&nbsp;Ultimate Skill Monkey Lore Bard + Thief Background (use down time to gain thieves tools prof) + Skilled feat (like 11 skill profs).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gyor, post: 6966624, member: 6670153"] If you want a Bard that can compete with a necromancer use magical secrets to get animate dead and create undead and buff them with your inspiration and maybe protect them from turn undead with counter charm. If you want more of a Beguiler Bard, go Lore Bard with thief background and pick mostly spells that were on the Beguilers spell list and enchantment/illusion spells. If you want Warmage go Valour Bard and pick evocation spells with your magical secrets. Admittedly doesn't really kick in until higher levels without multiclassing Sorceror or Evoker. Want a more religious Bard, pick Acolyte background, focus on healing bard spells more, use magical secrets to cherry picks favourite divine spells, Religion expertise and Persausion Expertise or Insight, and feats that grant divine magic. Summoner Bard, pick Unseen Servant. Planar Binding, and use Magical Lore to cherry pick summoning spells, use inspiration and song of rest and counter charm to buff your summoned pets. Smiting Bard Valour Bard that takes smites and maybe Greenflame Blade and/or Booming blade. Bonus points if you get find steed too. Ultimate Skill Monkey Lore Bard + Thief Background (use down time to gain thieves tools prof) + Skilled feat (like 11 skill profs). [/QUOTE]

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