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Are Bishops "Clerics" or "Priests"
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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9042153" data-attributes="member: 6684958"><p>Clerics were always made to be rare. They are divine combatants fighting for their faith. They defend divine sites. Strike at divine foes. And otherwise do military actions. "Divine Special Forces".</p><p></p><p>"Bishop" is just a rank in a organized religion.</p><p></p><p>However, when describing a world in any setting, the poor writers are "stuck" using the Player's Handbook PC classes to describe everyone. So a church has twenty five clerics, for example. </p><p></p><p>1E and 2E had some vague "other divine classes" that got divine powers, but were not "battle clerics". But they are scattered in dozens of books. And few, if any, ever made it into any setting lore put out by TSR/WotC. 3E came the closest with offical NPC classes in the core rules, and the divine spellcaster: the Adept. </p><p></p><p>After 3E, the idea was just dropped. </p><p></p><p>Of course, for World Building, someone would need to make a "priest" NPC divine spellcaster with UNIQUE abilities and spells. So, like a 300 page book minimum....maybe at least three books to cover "good". "neutral" and "evil". Of course, no company would dare do that.....</p><p></p><p>In my own game I have the bulk of the divine spellcasters of each faith quite weak 'non-combatants'. Most of them have quite low ability scores....even wisdom. A lot of the priests can only ever cast low level spells (going by the ye old 2E restrictions), no matter how high level they are. Priests also have a unique spell list, that is basically the lite version of the Clerics non combat spells. A priest does not cast the silly "video game super instant" heal spell Cure Wounds. The priest casts Fast Healing. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And each priest of each faith has a lot of super specialized spells. The goddess of beauty grants the spell "Detect Love Song". The god of blacksmithing grants the spell "Hammer Time". The goddess of farming grants the spell "Hoe your own Row". The goddess of the Moon grants the spell "Blue Moon". The god of the sun grants "Pocket full of Sunshine". The god of sailing grants the spell "Sail Away". And so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9042153, member: 6684958"] Clerics were always made to be rare. They are divine combatants fighting for their faith. They defend divine sites. Strike at divine foes. And otherwise do military actions. "Divine Special Forces". "Bishop" is just a rank in a organized religion. However, when describing a world in any setting, the poor writers are "stuck" using the Player's Handbook PC classes to describe everyone. So a church has twenty five clerics, for example. 1E and 2E had some vague "other divine classes" that got divine powers, but were not "battle clerics". But they are scattered in dozens of books. And few, if any, ever made it into any setting lore put out by TSR/WotC. 3E came the closest with offical NPC classes in the core rules, and the divine spellcaster: the Adept. After 3E, the idea was just dropped. Of course, for World Building, someone would need to make a "priest" NPC divine spellcaster with UNIQUE abilities and spells. So, like a 300 page book minimum....maybe at least three books to cover "good". "neutral" and "evil". Of course, no company would dare do that..... In my own game I have the bulk of the divine spellcasters of each faith quite weak 'non-combatants'. Most of them have quite low ability scores....even wisdom. A lot of the priests can only ever cast low level spells (going by the ye old 2E restrictions), no matter how high level they are. Priests also have a unique spell list, that is basically the lite version of the Clerics non combat spells. A priest does not cast the silly "video game super instant" heal spell Cure Wounds. The priest casts Fast Healing. And each priest of each faith has a lot of super specialized spells. The goddess of beauty grants the spell "Detect Love Song". The god of blacksmithing grants the spell "Hammer Time". The goddess of farming grants the spell "Hoe your own Row". The goddess of the Moon grants the spell "Blue Moon". The god of the sun grants "Pocket full of Sunshine". The god of sailing grants the spell "Sail Away". And so on. [/QUOTE]
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