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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 9043022" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>This.</p><p></p><p>The core books of various editions typically suggested that classed characters are rare in the world, but published adventures always contradicted them. How many adventures do you remember where a local temple did NOT have a spellcasting Cleric? Of course that is not the only NPC in the temple, it can very much be so that there are 10 other non-classed priests living there but are not worth being mentioned. It depends what "rare" means for you: 10% is a statistical minority and for someone looking at numbers it can qualify as rare; but take a different perspective like that of CCG and a card which would end up in a booster every other 10 cards would be hugely common.</p><p></p><p>The bishop problem is more related to the gamers habit of invariably assume that a character's social power must equate with their game mechanical power, which is rubbish when compared to the real world, but it matches with plenty of fantasy fiction: a fantasy world built on violent conflict to allow combat being at the centre of the fiction requires successful individuals to have mechanical power.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't <em>have</em> to be like that, but I am just saying that it is what I mostly expect from published material. Probably the designers think, there are always going to be players groups who will want to go after the NPC, and will do so by attacking it because they can't think of anything else, so we have to give that NPC some class levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 9043022, member: 1465"] This. The core books of various editions typically suggested that classed characters are rare in the world, but published adventures always contradicted them. How many adventures do you remember where a local temple did NOT have a spellcasting Cleric? Of course that is not the only NPC in the temple, it can very much be so that there are 10 other non-classed priests living there but are not worth being mentioned. It depends what "rare" means for you: 10% is a statistical minority and for someone looking at numbers it can qualify as rare; but take a different perspective like that of CCG and a card which would end up in a booster every other 10 cards would be hugely common. The bishop problem is more related to the gamers habit of invariably assume that a character's social power must equate with their game mechanical power, which is rubbish when compared to the real world, but it matches with plenty of fantasy fiction: a fantasy world built on violent conflict to allow combat being at the centre of the fiction requires successful individuals to have mechanical power. It doesn't [I]have[/I] to be like that, but I am just saying that it is what I mostly expect from published material. Probably the designers think, there are always going to be players groups who will want to go after the NPC, and will do so by attacking it because they can't think of anything else, so we have to give that NPC some class levels. [/QUOTE]
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