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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 383682" data-attributes="member: 1656">Reference?  Reasoning?(Edit : And as it happens, we're discussing countering DM, not dispelling it... dispelling an instantaneous spell is indeed meaningless.)Dispel Magic is only a counterspell when it's being used to counterspell: when it is cast as part of a declared ready action to counter another spell in the process of being cast.A targeted Dispel Magic or an area Dispel Magic is not a counterspell, and therefore can be countered.If Bob is casting Dispel Magic targeted on Fred, I can find no reason why Fred can't use his own Dispel Magic to counter Bob's casting - in two different ways, in fact.If Fred succeeds in a Spellcraft check to identify the spell Bob is casting, he can use his own Dispel Magic to automatically counter Bob's spell.If Fred doesn't identify Bob's spell, he can still use his own Dispel Magic in a counterspell attempt... but in this case, he would need to make a dispel check (using Dispel Magic as a generic counter).Since the spell in a Ring of Counterspells only triggers when the appropriate spell is cast, it behaves like the first case - a targetted Dispel Magic would be automatically countered, no dispel check required.If you have a reference as to why any of this is incorrect, I'd be interested to see it... but I couldn't find anything in the FAQ to contradict it.-Hyp.</blockquote>