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<blockquote data-quote="ashockney" data-source="post: 392260" data-attributes="member: 1363"><p>Yeah, that's a sad thing about this combat, was that three of the other party members weren't even there! They could have gotten even more buffed up! </p><p></p><p>The dragon gets summoned to them for "roleplaying" purposes. Long story...bottom line, bam, there he is. They didn't know what he was going to be, but they were all pissed off about what "the thing on the other end" had done to them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>ER buffs on the druid: some were from items, some were from spells vs. the different types, and he had some kind of "energy buffer" spell from one of the splatbooks up. </p><p></p><p>The miasma (which I'm going to rule-0) did have a small impact on the combat b/c I could have at least had a shot at getting a Greater Dispelling spell off on them, even though I would have had a bad shot to dispel 13th vs. 18th. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, I totally forgot the Monk's fists were GMF'd as well so it was more like 1d12+1d4+12. Man, he's vicious with all those attacks. The 1d4 is either from his prestige class or from some OA feat he took. (I'm ballparking here, you get the picture.)</p><p></p><p>Ok, the bear was a "big" throw in, but it's still only 2 of the 5 guys sitting at the table. The encounter was intended to challenge all five. Yeah, right. The dire bear only had about 3 levels of Barb. Probably remotely close to an ECL 14 - 18. Animal Growth didn't hurt here.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and the druid has some kind of "Spirit of the Wolf" conversion from EQ Druids that works something like Expeditious Retreat that they used to pace the Dragon's flight.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, you get the picture. Buffs make a big difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ashockney, post: 392260, member: 1363"] Yeah, that's a sad thing about this combat, was that three of the other party members weren't even there! They could have gotten even more buffed up! The dragon gets summoned to them for "roleplaying" purposes. Long story...bottom line, bam, there he is. They didn't know what he was going to be, but they were all pissed off about what "the thing on the other end" had done to them. :rolleyes: ER buffs on the druid: some were from items, some were from spells vs. the different types, and he had some kind of "energy buffer" spell from one of the splatbooks up. The miasma (which I'm going to rule-0) did have a small impact on the combat b/c I could have at least had a shot at getting a Greater Dispelling spell off on them, even though I would have had a bad shot to dispel 13th vs. 18th. Yeah, I totally forgot the Monk's fists were GMF'd as well so it was more like 1d12+1d4+12. Man, he's vicious with all those attacks. The 1d4 is either from his prestige class or from some OA feat he took. (I'm ballparking here, you get the picture.) Ok, the bear was a "big" throw in, but it's still only 2 of the 5 guys sitting at the table. The encounter was intended to challenge all five. Yeah, right. The dire bear only had about 3 levels of Barb. Probably remotely close to an ECL 14 - 18. Animal Growth didn't hurt here. Oh, and the druid has some kind of "Spirit of the Wolf" conversion from EQ Druids that works something like Expeditious Retreat that they used to pace the Dragon's flight. Anyway, you get the picture. Buffs make a big difference. [/QUOTE]
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