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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaiyanwang" data-source="post: 5284479" data-attributes="member: 91656">Not to be offending  but.. OR they simply DMed smarter than the wizard? See below. In my experience, the above happens when one designs high level adventures like the ones at level 1. The game has changed, and powerful spells (as well ass the occasional 300 damage crit that blows up the ring from Sauron's hand) or are needed to MOVE the plot. You MUST teleport or the princess will die. You MUST gate the Angel in that specific place to purify an ancient evil.. maybe the party must fight his way, reach the place, dispel the forbiddance, the warrios must be ready to attack any interloper... This is quite true - there are powerful spells. But the DM has control on what items are available in the campaing. Of course the wizard could craft them, but has he always the time to do it? MOreover, past level 11, the PCs are veri famous or infamous. If their deeds are famous, is possible that their enemies learn how to fight them.And what PC use, BBEG can use, sometimes even more.I see that the number of spellslot available is somewhat the "clock" of many advetures.. but meleer's sacrifice and skill makes the use of those slots optimal.Mooks can be wiped by spell combos, but true enemies, if well designed, hold well. In my experience, Outsiders are particularly nasty and need far more the support of buffed meleers.One could say that high level game needs more preparation.. I concede it easily. But the all of nothing phenomenon.. can happen, but is not the mandatory rule for every encounter.OP, I was sincere, above, when I talked about the level 40. I reall managed a campaing until that level. And we stopped for personal issues, not for problems with the game.Today, whan people meet and happens they talk about that campaign, I'm moved to see their eyes shine talking about the epic, awesome deeds their heroes accomplished. Moving castles, abominations killed with a blow, forests awakened, a dragon stolen from the City of Brass.Depending from what comes out, high level can be playable or not. My suggestion: if happens, try it out. The eyes of our players could be worthy of the sweat. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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