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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4939835" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>This is because Fiendish Dire Rats could have ben raised in captivity, fiendish by their nature, the genes passed down from their parents. SUMMONED Fiendish Dire Rats all come from the Abyss directly and, as such, are vile outsiders who ping as pure evil, ready for the smiting.</p><p></p><p>Mostly kidding around here, but seems like something that if my DM said I would agree was plausible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Car analogy time!! Your car has a sensor (Detect Evil) that will tell you when your 10 gallon tank has less than 2 gallons of gasoline (5HD Evil) remaining. When your 10 gallon tank is at 7 gallons it doesn't say "Hey buddy, you're almost empty", b/c it's not at the point that it is supposed to warn you. [yes the gas tank is inversely scaled so a full tank would be 0 level commoner]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What if we didn't like Aunt Jeanie and thought she was a bad person? Maybe since it's HER beanhead bowl it isn't quite so bad? Is a 16 year old kid who shoots up his school more evil than Palpatine ordering the Jedi be wiped out (note the careful real world politics dodge). Palpatine certainly has more hit dice, so the kid might not show on the Detect Evil radar.</p><p></p><p>The extra lines Mathius brought up could render it all useless anyway, but the wide ranging interpretations of things that are, by their own nature, rather subjective are likely part of what led them to finally unhitch alignment from the game mechanics. Many alignment arguements I've ben involved with over the last 20+ years involve one or both parties saying something to the effect of "Of course it happens like X, that's obvious. I don't see how anyone could think otherwise". Were some of the DMs and players I played with just stubborn or close-minded? Probably, but this is why we have rules. They have to have something as the line in the sand and they apparently chose 5HD. It could have been 4HD. It could have been 10HD. Arbitrary decision is arbitrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 4939835, member: 5202"] This is because Fiendish Dire Rats could have ben raised in captivity, fiendish by their nature, the genes passed down from their parents. SUMMONED Fiendish Dire Rats all come from the Abyss directly and, as such, are vile outsiders who ping as pure evil, ready for the smiting. Mostly kidding around here, but seems like something that if my DM said I would agree was plausible. Car analogy time!! Your car has a sensor (Detect Evil) that will tell you when your 10 gallon tank has less than 2 gallons of gasoline (5HD Evil) remaining. When your 10 gallon tank is at 7 gallons it doesn't say "Hey buddy, you're almost empty", b/c it's not at the point that it is supposed to warn you. [yes the gas tank is inversely scaled so a full tank would be 0 level commoner] What if we didn't like Aunt Jeanie and thought she was a bad person? Maybe since it's HER beanhead bowl it isn't quite so bad? Is a 16 year old kid who shoots up his school more evil than Palpatine ordering the Jedi be wiped out (note the careful real world politics dodge). Palpatine certainly has more hit dice, so the kid might not show on the Detect Evil radar. The extra lines Mathius brought up could render it all useless anyway, but the wide ranging interpretations of things that are, by their own nature, rather subjective are likely part of what led them to finally unhitch alignment from the game mechanics. Many alignment arguements I've ben involved with over the last 20+ years involve one or both parties saying something to the effect of "Of course it happens like X, that's obvious. I don't see how anyone could think otherwise". Were some of the DMs and players I played with just stubborn or close-minded? Probably, but this is why we have rules. They have to have something as the line in the sand and they apparently chose 5HD. It could have been 4HD. It could have been 10HD. Arbitrary decision is arbitrary. [/QUOTE]
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