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<blockquote data-quote="Evilhalfling" data-source="post: 3673618" data-attributes="member: 16991"><p>I have played Guild Wars as a RPG - and as a MMORG </p><p>a friend and I have a pair of characters that use the same last name, and call themselves cousins, we only use them when the other person is around, and always adventure as a team. </p><p>We used to game in person, but now live in different cities. There is usually some catching up and small talk before we settel into RP.</p><p></p><p>The two characters are cynical and snarky to NPCs, making rude comments, mocking them and always insiting on gold, sneering at any other motivations. Small lost child in trouble? what has she got in her pockets? 200 gp and an imperial token? okay we will help. </p><p>I spent some time time to "persuade" an NPC thief / bandit guild that I should be on their team. In no way did they, or could they respond, but it was still kinda fun. </p><p></p><p>I have several other charcters that are there to fight and in some cases look pretty. These are not engaged with the storyline any more than I have to be. They are the ones that actually finish the games. I enjoy playing both and prolly devote way to much time to the game. </p><p></p><p>Can they be rolplaying games? yes, but it takes work, and friends to make them so.</p><p></p><p>I will second other posters saying that planescape torment was the closest a game by itself has ever come - choices on relationships with henchmen, they had a memory based on which multiple choice response you had used in previous conversations. </p><p>faction choice and alignment deterimend by your actions </p><p></p><p>Fallout 2 was good to - I played it once straight and once with a 4 int. the second time I would be given conversational choices like this: </p><p>1. Huh? </p><p>2. wha.....</p><p>and was told early in the game - "take this pointy stick, go to that house, stick it in the guy there "</p><p>The prevous character had gotten a full explination of undergoing a manhood right of trial by combat. </p><p>I wasn't fond of the sci-fi bits and abandoned the game before going to far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Evilhalfling, post: 3673618, member: 16991"] I have played Guild Wars as a RPG - and as a MMORG a friend and I have a pair of characters that use the same last name, and call themselves cousins, we only use them when the other person is around, and always adventure as a team. We used to game in person, but now live in different cities. There is usually some catching up and small talk before we settel into RP. The two characters are cynical and snarky to NPCs, making rude comments, mocking them and always insiting on gold, sneering at any other motivations. Small lost child in trouble? what has she got in her pockets? 200 gp and an imperial token? okay we will help. I spent some time time to "persuade" an NPC thief / bandit guild that I should be on their team. In no way did they, or could they respond, but it was still kinda fun. I have several other charcters that are there to fight and in some cases look pretty. These are not engaged with the storyline any more than I have to be. They are the ones that actually finish the games. I enjoy playing both and prolly devote way to much time to the game. Can they be rolplaying games? yes, but it takes work, and friends to make them so. I will second other posters saying that planescape torment was the closest a game by itself has ever come - choices on relationships with henchmen, they had a memory based on which multiple choice response you had used in previous conversations. faction choice and alignment deterimend by your actions Fallout 2 was good to - I played it once straight and once with a 4 int. the second time I would be given conversational choices like this: 1. Huh? 2. wha..... and was told early in the game - "take this pointy stick, go to that house, stick it in the guy there " The prevous character had gotten a full explination of undergoing a manhood right of trial by combat. I wasn't fond of the sci-fi bits and abandoned the game before going to far. [/QUOTE]
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