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<blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3675671" data-attributes="member: 3608">Because--whatever they might be called--this is the significant difference between RPGs &amp; all games we played before. &quot;Role-playing game&quot;--which to my knowledge had never been used before it was used to describe D&amp;D and similar games--became the moniker for these games despite it being a good or bad one.Then people started making computer games in the same vein, but these lacked this crucial element. They were called &quot;role-playing games&quot; only in that they borrowed from &quot;real&quot; role-playing games. So, &quot;RPG&quot; also became a moniker for a genre of computer games, but only in this specific context. The general term still referred to games with the significant feature described above.These days, there are multi-user computer things that can enable--more or less--the playing of a &quot;real&quot; RPG. They are not RPGs themselves, however. They are merely tools that two or more people can use to play an RPG.Maybe.Acting may be role-playing, but it is not a game. If some people get together &amp; act out scripted parts under the guise of an RPG, that doesn't make it an RPG.But then, are RPGs really games? Are they puzzles or toys as some have said?Not that any of that really matters. I don't think I'm going to convince you, &amp; you probably aren't going to convince me. &amp; that's just fine. I wish we could have a discussion of the differences without the distraction of this &quot;true RPG&quot; nonsense, but that doesn't look like it'll ever happen.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RFisher, post: 3675671, member: 3608"] Because--whatever they might be called--this is the significant difference between RPGs & all games we played before. "Role-playing game"--which to my knowledge had never been used before it was used to describe D&D and similar games--became the moniker for these games despite it being a good or bad one. Then people started making computer games in the same vein, but these lacked this crucial element. They were called "role-playing games" only in that they borrowed from "real" role-playing games. So, "RPG" also became a moniker for a genre of computer games, but only in this specific context. The general term still referred to games with the significant feature described above. These days, there are multi-user computer things that can enable--more or less--the playing of a "real" RPG. They are not RPGs themselves, however. They are merely tools that two or more people can use to play an RPG. Maybe. Acting [i]may[/i] be role-playing, but it is not a [i]game[/i]. If some people get together & act out scripted parts under the guise of an RPG, that doesn't make it an RPG. But then, are RPGs really games? Are they puzzles or toys as some have said? Not that any of that really matters. I don't think I'm going to convince you, & you probably aren't going to convince me. & that's just fine. I wish we could have a discussion of the differences without the distraction of this "true RPG" nonsense, but that doesn't look like it'll ever happen. [/QUOTE]

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