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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 822706" data-attributes="member: 2205">Arguing a composite opinion is probably a poor choice -- I don't know that you're actually debating with anyone, in that case, just airing your own views.  The position that Tsyr is taking, which I also take and support 100% (us Michiganders need to stick together anyway) is that players have the freedom to do what they want, as often as they want, without penalty other than in-game consequences that would happen.  Alignment shouldn't be used as a DM tool to restrict that, and in fact, the PHB states this very specifically (quotes graciously provided by Henry.)  If this is what you're arguing against, which it seems to be, although you don't address this directly because you consistently want to present our position as something other than what it really is, then you have the rulebook against you.  You can do what you want in your game, of course, but to come here and tell us we're all playing "wrong" is completely off base.I'm not sure exactly what you do anymore.  You talk about alignment as if it should be a chastity belt, never to be opened or removed, and yet it seems as if you have more alignment changes in your group than Tsyr does, from the accounts I've gleaned out of the thread so far.  Maybe you do need to institute some kind of DM control, but if so, that clearly supports barsoomcore's implication that your players aren't very good.</blockquote>