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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6177010" data-attributes="member: 19675">Do you have access to a study showing that most players are casual?  Or is that just your belief?Because that has not been my experience.  But for the newest players- like people I was instrumental in teaching to play- more than 75% of he players I have personally encountered since 1977 have been anything but casual players.  My current group of buddies can be divided into gamers, non-gamers, and one casual player....and our group is not participating.  The gamers in the group- @11 guys, all with more than a decade and a half in the hobby- are not interested in the playtest precisely because they're largely NOT interested in what has been said about 5Ed.(Personally, I'm treating it like I have all the previous editions.  I'll buy the core rules and decide from there.) Again, my personal experience says otherwise.  Unless you can get 5+ of the gamers in our group on board, you can just forget about running a game.<a href="http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/AJA1967/media/image_zps10913246.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s593/AJA1967/image_zps10913246.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a>That room contains several dozen boardgames, wargames, CCGs, CMGs and @65 RPGs.  Since 1998, the only RPG campaigns it has hosted were run in D&D, M&M, and RIFTS.  I have not even been able to run a single night of gaming in my favorite RPG system.My prior group- in another city- ran games a greater variety of systems.  But in that group, the "social contract" was that everybody ran a game, and everybody had a PC in everyone's campaign.  If you didn't like a particular system, a bit of polite patience & participation would be rewarded when the other players respectfully reciprocated.So I say again, it is not necessarily the DMs who decide- the players can have just as much of a say.  If the players simply acquiesce to the DM, that only means they don't have a strong preference."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.  ~ Rush"</blockquote>

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