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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6177135" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I'm not really sure how to respond here.&nbsp; My response wasn't a statement about a 3.x/PF vs 4e edition war and the current design-space that 5e is aiming at.&nbsp; It was pretty much exactly what I wrote above.&nbsp; I found the assertion of &quot;you are not edition warriors&quot; (addressing the D&amp;D audience) as pretty far off mark so as to be almost Monty Python satire.&nbsp; I witnessed the 1e &gt; 2e venom.&nbsp; The intra-2e Complete Elven Handbook and Kender outrage, the cries and castigations against munchkins and metagaming leading toward onetruewayism, and finally the Skills and Powers battle lines.&nbsp; The AD&amp;D &gt; 3e rage.&nbsp; Finally, the extraordinary jilted lover type stuff from 3e &gt; 4e.&nbsp; We don't have a full-on 4e &gt; 5e edition war as of yet and there may be hope that we won't due to the marketplace being rife with alternatives.&nbsp; However, I suspect that once 5e is released and the DDI tools are formally taken offline, you will see a full court press of 4e player ire with 5e right in the crosshairs.D&amp;D tribalism is the same as sports fanatics is the same as diametrically opposed politicos/activists/competing hypothesis factions.&nbsp; The idea that the greater D&amp;D culture isn't composed of a generous proportion of edition warriors, and that Mearls et al don't have to deal with/win over those competing interests is wishful thinking on his part...or abhorrent reading of the tea leaves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6177135, member: 6696971"] I'm not really sure how to respond here. My response wasn't a statement about a 3.x/PF vs 4e edition war and the current design-space that 5e is aiming at. It was pretty much exactly what I wrote above. I found the assertion of "you are not edition warriors" (addressing the D&D audience) as pretty far off mark so as to be almost Monty Python satire. I witnessed the 1e > 2e venom. The intra-2e Complete Elven Handbook and Kender outrage, the cries and castigations against munchkins and metagaming leading toward onetruewayism, and finally the Skills and Powers battle lines. The AD&D > 3e rage. Finally, the extraordinary jilted lover type stuff from 3e > 4e. We don't have a full-on 4e > 5e edition war as of yet and there may be hope that we won't due to the marketplace being rife with alternatives. However, I suspect that once 5e is released and the DDI tools are formally taken offline, you will see a full court press of 4e player ire with 5e right in the crosshairs. D&D tribalism is the same as sports fanatics is the same as diametrically opposed politicos/activists/competing hypothesis factions. The idea that the greater D&D culture isn't composed of a generous proportion of edition warriors, and that Mearls et al don't have to deal with/win over those competing interests is wishful thinking on his part...or abhorrent reading of the tea leaves. [/QUOTE]

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