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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 3404051" data-attributes="member: 35798">wow, you too? Our old dm did that too us. the black dragon (red hand of doom) was upped a few crs. We were all level 7 with +1 magic items. The dm in all his amazing slender (gag) thought it would be fun to have the combat with the dragon start right before the combat with the the other creatures. so we were all low on hp to begin with. The Dragon was only hittable on a 18 (while flanking) by the party fighter, also it was almost impossible to get past its sr. Well after it was clear that the dm <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ed up, and no one could hit it enuff to every hope to kill it before it would kill the whole party. The dm fearing retribution on a tpk through his own misguided notion of CR,  had it escape but through the us of tangle foot bags and some zany rules we killed the dragon (but i know the dm handed us the kill). It was pretty unsatisfying because the dm knew he messed up and knew it was going to be a tpk not  through the fault of the players, but through his own lack of understand of the cr system. That and not bothering to look at the creatures ac ans sr before he advanced it. This was also a core game with low magic.... ouch.The point of the story? By very careful when sending a dragon with a higher cr then what is recommended. It could be very ugly.</blockquote>

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