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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7849419" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>I haven't read all of this, so if my post is a repeat, please forgive. So many posts, too iittle time.</p><p></p><p>Dragon wings are usually depicted as being small, I blame the limits of lead, and shipping problems: The gaming figures always had pitifully small wings because if you put larger wings on the dragons then the joints wouldn't hold, even if the figures were handled carefully. I mean, who likes it when the DM brings out his or her pride and joy, that huge (or Colossal) horror they spent far too much money and time on, an they have to treat it like tissue paper lest it fall apart. There's also a practical limit on how big a package they're willing to shell out for and ship.</p><p></p><p>Oh, sorry, you were taking about the "real" dragons in the game, not the miniatures. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Artistic license by the illustrator? Limited page space for the art? Because there are few if any places where the various sources actually give wing measurements.</p><p></p><p>Now, can something the size of a moving van fly by muscle power? You can't just scale up a hummingbird and expect it to fly. A hummingbird brought to the size of an eagle would be earthbound. Wings are too small.</p><p></p><p>To make said muscular moving van fly they'd need wings like a circus tent, and a skeletal structure that could move them from that relatively small base. No joint of bone and cartilege (sp?) will ever be strong enough. As size doubles, wing area quadruples (square of the scale up), but the weight to carry octuples (it's a cube thing).</p><p></p><p>So in the strictly technical sens, no, dragon wings aren't big enough, nor could they be.</p><p></p><p>Artistically however, we could at least try. The wings depicted in most D&D art and figure castings wouldn't keep that thing in the air even if you didn't scale it up. I'd like it if the artists and sculptors would at last try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7849419, member: 6669384"] I haven't read all of this, so if my post is a repeat, please forgive. So many posts, too iittle time. Dragon wings are usually depicted as being small, I blame the limits of lead, and shipping problems: The gaming figures always had pitifully small wings because if you put larger wings on the dragons then the joints wouldn't hold, even if the figures were handled carefully. I mean, who likes it when the DM brings out his or her pride and joy, that huge (or Colossal) horror they spent far too much money and time on, an they have to treat it like tissue paper lest it fall apart. There's also a practical limit on how big a package they're willing to shell out for and ship. Oh, sorry, you were taking about the "real" dragons in the game, not the miniatures. :) Artistic license by the illustrator? Limited page space for the art? Because there are few if any places where the various sources actually give wing measurements. Now, can something the size of a moving van fly by muscle power? You can't just scale up a hummingbird and expect it to fly. A hummingbird brought to the size of an eagle would be earthbound. Wings are too small. To make said muscular moving van fly they'd need wings like a circus tent, and a skeletal structure that could move them from that relatively small base. No joint of bone and cartilege (sp?) will ever be strong enough. As size doubles, wing area quadruples (square of the scale up), but the weight to carry octuples (it's a cube thing). So in the strictly technical sens, no, dragon wings aren't big enough, nor could they be. Artistically however, we could at least try. The wings depicted in most D&D art and figure castings wouldn't keep that thing in the air even if you didn't scale it up. I'd like it if the artists and sculptors would at last try. [/QUOTE]
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