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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6670980" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Can you clarify the difference between a &quot;humanoid&quot; and a &quot;demi-human&quot;?Also, that distinction aside, what is the difference between a &quot;demi-human&quot; with innate spell abilities, such as gnomes (in at least some editions), and a &quot;fey&quot;? Does this mean there is more to the &quot;fey&quot; definition than simply being &quot;humanoidish&quot; and having innate spell abilities, since gnomes (apparently) meet both conditions but fail to be &quot;fey&quot; in your eyes?To be honest though, I feel like your pursuit of one, universal, definitive answer which applies to all players of D&amp;D everywhere is...unreasonable? The game changes far too much, simply from one table to another, to say nothing of one edition to another or even other systems (e.g. retroclones). DMs should have the freedom to call their game &quot;D&amp;D&quot; as long as they play by more-or-less the same rules, even if it means that there cannot be a universal taxonomy of races. I say, if you'd prefer to have Drow be fey, declare them fey, and see to it that they have the necessary qualifications (fiction is creationist, after all). If you'd prefer that they not be fey, then I recommend you declare them so and ensure they fail to meet the requirements in some way. If you truly have no opinion yourself, and would prefer to hear the community's opinions...debate seems, to me, like an inefficient way to gather those opinions. And if you're seeking a discussion to determine a definitive answer, I don't think you're going to have much luck, since there are definitely some people whose favorite way of doing things is one you consider anathema.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6670980, member: 6790260"] Can you clarify the difference between a "humanoid" and a "demi-human"? Also, that distinction aside, what is the difference between a "demi-human" with innate spell abilities, such as gnomes (in at least some editions), and a "fey"? Does this mean there is more to the "fey" definition than simply being "humanoidish" and having innate spell abilities, since gnomes (apparently) meet both conditions but fail to be "fey" in your eyes? To be honest though, I feel like your pursuit of one, universal, definitive answer which applies to all players of D&D everywhere is...unreasonable? The game changes far too much, simply from one table to another, to say nothing of one edition to another or even other systems (e.g. retroclones). DMs should have the freedom to call their game "D&D" as long as they play by more-or-less the same rules, even if it means that there cannot be a universal taxonomy of races. I say, if you'd prefer to have Drow be fey, declare them fey, and see to it that they have the necessary qualifications (fiction is creationist, after all). If you'd prefer that they not be fey, then I recommend you declare them so and ensure they fail to meet the requirements in some way. If you truly have no opinion yourself, and would prefer to hear the community's opinions...debate seems, to me, like an inefficient way to gather those opinions. And if you're seeking a discussion to determine a definitive answer, I don't think you're going to have much luck, since there are definitely some people whose favorite way of doing things is one you consider anathema. [/QUOTE]

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