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<blockquote data-quote="Gaming Tonic" data-source="post: 5713516" data-attributes="member: 6679316">The new math from Monster Vault 2 makes low level 4E a bit trickier, especially where using brutes are concerned.&nbsp; A hit or two can not only take a PC to 0 but kill them outright.&nbsp; This quickly goes away after a couple of levels.&nbsp; It is really hard to say what is too tough or deadly.&nbsp; If a party is made with a single minded focus than a variety of encounters can really challenge them as they may not have the necessary resources (feats, skills, utility powers) to survive them.&nbsp; A party with no real range ability could be in trouble against certain encounters.Lots of PC deaths that I have witnessed or dealt out in 4E were due to a melee striker who never really thought about defending himself, challenged a brute and his supporting melee cast and got pounded to dust.&nbsp; It is far less deadly than any previous editions and thanks for removing the save or die (disintegration) or save or lose control of your character for a long time (charm person) mechanic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gaming Tonic, post: 5713516, member: 6679316"] The new math from Monster Vault 2 makes low level 4E a bit trickier, especially where using brutes are concerned. A hit or two can not only take a PC to 0 but kill them outright. This quickly goes away after a couple of levels. It is really hard to say what is too tough or deadly. If a party is made with a single minded focus than a variety of encounters can really challenge them as they may not have the necessary resources (feats, skills, utility powers) to survive them. A party with no real range ability could be in trouble against certain encounters. Lots of PC deaths that I have witnessed or dealt out in 4E were due to a melee striker who never really thought about defending himself, challenged a brute and his supporting melee cast and got pounded to dust. It is far less deadly than any previous editions and thanks for removing the save or die (disintegration) or save or lose control of your character for a long time (charm person) mechanic. [/QUOTE]

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