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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8019092" data-attributes="member: 7006">Just to try and make my whole point clear using this question... if the D&D game had an actual list of known, identifiable, named characters with complete personalities that were solars, planetars, and devas, (as well as modrons and slaad)... then yeah, I'd probably be asking the same thing about "good" gods too.  Or inversely, if the extent of our devils and demons were just the list of generic ones (bone devils, chain devils, herzou, mariliths etc.) I wouldn't be asking the question at all.It's really simply a matter of trying to figure out the use for all these "characters" that appear at least to me to be stepping on each other's toes.  Is there a point to them?  Does having 6 to 20 evil gods and the "evil cultist" worshippers of said gods that we use to present them into the game as antagonists make Glaysa an afterthought?  (Just choosing an Archdevil at random)?I suspect that the game repeatedly edition after edition has not given us an entire line of known solar characters specifically because they wanted the pantheon of gods to hold a higher place in the eyes of the players.  And heck... even for the class where PCs directly interact with the known archdevils, archdemons, and archfey (the warlocks through their pacts).... when they added the Celestials option to the pact list they still didn't design a list of celestials "characters" to select from, they said "just make one up".  And I find that interesting as well personally, that no known Choir of Angels has assumed any place in the D&D multiverse with any staying power.  We can identify many of the archfey, archdevils, and archdemons in D&D we'd use as patrons, but no corresponding archangel character.  Seeming to me as though they still want the "good gods" to maintain a place as over and above everything else in the divine order.  But if all things were played out equally... we really should have a list of D&D multiverse Archangels for all of us to use just like we do the other three patron orders.</blockquote>

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