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Are "evil gods" necessary? [THREAD NECRO]
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8022852" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I think this all goes to your point about precision of nomencalture - with which I agree.</p><p></p><p>The passage about Theoden says that he was "borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young." I think this is like the reference to "heathen kings". As you say, it reflects a persepctive of those who are mistaken about the nature of divinity.</p><p></p><p>Gandalf, in crowning Aragorn, says "Now come the days of the King, and may they be blessed as long as the thrones of the Valar endure!" Is this a prayer? And to whom? I would read this in conjunction with Gandalf's declaration, before the Balrog, that "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor." Also his statement to Denethor that "I also am a steward." In this sense Gandalf is on a par with the Valar, who are also servants (of the one) and stewards (of Middle Earth).</p><p></p><p>The idea of proper fulfillment of one's office is obviously a major recurring theme in LotR. And it informs its presentation of the relationship of creation to creator. I personally think D&D could handle this if someone wanted it to. But it would require a different backstory from the typical approach to clerics and their gods.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8022852, member: 42582"] I think this all goes to your point about precision of nomencalture - with which I agree. The passage about Theoden says that he was "borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young." I think this is like the reference to "heathen kings". As you say, it reflects a persepctive of those who are mistaken about the nature of divinity. Gandalf, in crowning Aragorn, says "Now come the days of the King, and may they be blessed as long as the thrones of the Valar endure!" Is this a prayer? And to whom? I would read this in conjunction with Gandalf's declaration, before the Balrog, that "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor." Also his statement to Denethor that "I also am a steward." In this sense Gandalf is on a par with the Valar, who are also servants (of the one) and stewards (of Middle Earth). The idea of proper fulfillment of one's office is obviously a major recurring theme in LotR. And it informs its presentation of the relationship of creation to creator. I personally think D&D could handle this if someone wanted it to. But it would require a different backstory from the typical approach to clerics and their gods. [/QUOTE]
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