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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Warbringer" data-source="post: 9128001" data-attributes="member: 14391">Ontologically, no. There is no need for evil to be an alternative view of the ideals in the universe. Orthogonally, yes. Some thing of equal power needs to be narratively present ( and yes no gods at all is equally as valid), but if good gods exist then something of cumulative “evil” must exist, else why has evil not been vanquished? Calling them gods or demons becomes difference without differentiation.in my own campaign their are gods of good and evil that coalesce around the Blessed Host and Dark Hand (yeah, nicked from Ebberon with a cosmetic change) - they quibble amongst themselves manipulating the intelligent races almost like currency for position over each other,  but they are vested in the it all existing.”Evil” (capital E ) is the Chained God who just wants to undue his creation, because it’s flawed. Together, the gods defeated The All Seeing Father, caged and proceeded to carve up HIS creation while keeping him Caged.Ultimately, who is good or evil? Is the Chained God “wrong”, Is seeing the faults of his creation would what comes next not have been better, indeed “Good”.</blockquote>