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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2545168" data-attributes="member: 35788">Well, also, lets keep in mind that dealing out uber damage is not the only reason for weilding a spiked chain.  Many good RP reasons are out there.  AND, the spiked chain weilder should slightly outpace the damage done by a longsword weilder.But seriously, outside of the historical realism part this discussion so far has largely focused on the spiked chain being unable to keep up in the damage category.  Personally - as a DM - I would much rather have a player who wants to pick feats and wrap them around being able to use a spiked chain effectively (not only damage but also trip and disarm) rather than having the standard "D'oh, gimmie the greatsword cause it does the most damage."  Yes, the greatsword is made for Conan-type fighters.  And with them it really works.  I'm not criticizing people who use greatswords.  But please!  Gimmie a spiked-chain weilder or a glaive weilder or even a halberd weilder anyday.  Especially if they want to dive into taking feats that really work with those types of weapons.I think the feat required to use the chain makes it balanced.  And, while it admittedly won't keep up in damage with other weapons, it opens up so many more avenues beyond just "kill ... kill ... kill."  With a little thought you can disarm and pin and interrogate/imprison.  You could trip and pin, interrogate/imprison.I guess what I am saying is for a person who wants to be Conan - the spiked chain is not for you.  But for someone who wants to explore other avenues of being effective, the spiked chain can really rock.  But, you have to be smart about it!</blockquote>

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