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Are fighters that specialize in spiked chain viable/survivable at most/all levels?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2548161" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I think you overestimate the significance of crit range/multipliers. At most, a good crit range or multiplier with keen or improved critical will multiply your damage by 1.3--assuming a 100% confirmation rate which is only realistic for paladins using the bless weapon spell. Otherwise, it hovers between 50 and 70%. So, you're talking about a 15-21% increase in damage dice from crits using a falchion, scimitar, heavy pick, or scythe. Of course, the two handed weapons in that group have the same base damage as the chain, so there's no exponential advantage there. A character wielding a x3 or 19-20 weapon with Imp Crit will see a 10-15% increase in damage. Since the comparable weapons there are guisarme, glaive, greatsword, and greataxe, there is sometimes a slight exponential effect. A spiked chain wielder does get crits though and with Imp Crit or keen will gain a 5-7% damage increase. And all that only applies against crittable foes. It will be less significant against foes with fortification armor, undead, constructs, plants, etc.</p><p></p><p>So, you're talking about a 10-14% damage advantage from crit qualities in cases where that matters. That's significant, but remember that it only adds up to about three points of damage when the character is maxed out for critting and does 30 points per swing.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you consider that flurry of blows (EWM ability) gives the chain wielder an extra attack at full BAB -2, and roughly estimate that 66% of a level 11-15 fighter's damage comes from the first attacks, (counting a haste attack from a speed weapon or boots of speed so he has 2 first attacks), the flurry of blows ability is likely to increase full attack damage against all foes by 33% or so. The extra attack is two to three times as significant as the difference in critical qualities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 2548161, member: 3146"] I think you overestimate the significance of crit range/multipliers. At most, a good crit range or multiplier with keen or improved critical will multiply your damage by 1.3--assuming a 100% confirmation rate which is only realistic for paladins using the bless weapon spell. Otherwise, it hovers between 50 and 70%. So, you're talking about a 15-21% increase in damage dice from crits using a falchion, scimitar, heavy pick, or scythe. Of course, the two handed weapons in that group have the same base damage as the chain, so there's no exponential advantage there. A character wielding a x3 or 19-20 weapon with Imp Crit will see a 10-15% increase in damage. Since the comparable weapons there are guisarme, glaive, greatsword, and greataxe, there is sometimes a slight exponential effect. A spiked chain wielder does get crits though and with Imp Crit or keen will gain a 5-7% damage increase. And all that only applies against crittable foes. It will be less significant against foes with fortification armor, undead, constructs, plants, etc. So, you're talking about a 10-14% damage advantage from crit qualities in cases where that matters. That's significant, but remember that it only adds up to about three points of damage when the character is maxed out for critting and does 30 points per swing. Now, if you consider that flurry of blows (EWM ability) gives the chain wielder an extra attack at full BAB -2, and roughly estimate that 66% of a level 11-15 fighter's damage comes from the first attacks, (counting a haste attack from a speed weapon or boots of speed so he has 2 first attacks), the flurry of blows ability is likely to increase full attack damage against all foes by 33% or so. The extra attack is two to three times as significant as the difference in critical qualities. [/QUOTE]
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