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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nisarg" data-source="post: 1725891" data-attributes="member: 19893">Well, no that's not a good point at all actually.. unless you're saying gamers have all the emotional and social maturity development of a 12 year old child?The fact is that the average gamer is older than that, and should be held to higher standards of maturity.The fact is also, sadly, gamers in north america tend to tolerate a much higher level of the socially retarded than is healthy for the hobby and the hobby's perception in the world at large.  The socially unfit shouldn't be allowed to continue to be socially unfit in the gaming community, and thus become our "poster boys" to the world. Interestingly, I've found down here in South America that this is not tolerated at all, and there are some interesting results: 1. You have no terminally antisocial or sociopathic people in gaming groups, which you do have in gaming in North America.2. Most people down here live up to the social norms, in terms of standards for their age group (unlike in North America where in one gaming group I played in I was the ONLY one who had a job and was living independantly outside of his parent's house, when this was a group of 25 year old men.. I was also the only one who'd had a long-term relationship with a woman).3. There are far more female gamers down here, I'd say about three or four times as many. This might be because they feel safe about coming to a gaming club knowing they won't be harassed by mouth-breathing social imbeciles that haven't bathed in a week, don't have a job, and live with their mom.The gaming community needs to make a choice. Do we want more well-adjusted people, and more women, in our community; or do we want to hand over the entire hobby to the cat-piss men?  Because we can't do both. And the longer we tolerate this sort of social retardation at our gaming tables the more socially functional people will associate that attitude with gaming and will leave the hobby.  Its the industry equivalent of a death spiral, it happened to furry fandom and it could happen to us.Nisarg</blockquote>

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