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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nisarg" data-source="post: 1726493" data-attributes="member: 19893">That seems pretty absurd to me. It would take some pretty weak-willed human being to become socially incompetent just because he feels his hobby demands it.I think a more likely prognosis is that those for whom gaming is not their sole social outlet, who have other things going for them, will not be cat-piss men.. Those who have no other social outlet, and who see that the standards for social behaviour in Gaming are very very low, might just slip down to that lower common denominator, due to self-esteem issues or what have you, and because the rest of the community is an enabler for that type of behaviour.  All the more reason for gamers to have some basic standards of what they expect from the people they are gaming with. You might be saving a social life...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> It isn't just in gaming, obviously.  In my own "social outlets", I've seen similar phenomena.. be it in the pipe-smoking community, in meditation groups, in chi gung, even in politics or the freemasons.  Even in a slightly different manifestation in the line of work I'm in (academic research).  In any of these, when there are people who only have that ONE social outlet, be it just their job, or just pipe-collecting, or just gaming, they get eccentric.  But in the other communities, the eccentricity will not take the extremes of social retardation you will find in the "nerd/fandom" communities (not just gaming but anime fandom, scifi, etc), because in those other communities such an extreme would be deemed unacceptable.Lastly, your attempt to silence dissent is noted; nice tactic implying that anyone who dares to argue we need less catpiss men is probably a catpiss man, but I think that its quite acceptable and even desperately nescessary to demand that there be certain basic standards of hygene and self-control in roleplaying, and I'm pretty confident in my social abilities.On the contrary, I would say that while those who try to dodge the issue and pretend that there isn't a catpiss man problem are suffering from the geek social fallacy, those who try to actively attack people who demand social standards in gaming are almost certainly catpiss men themselves.  That supposition seems a lot more logical than yours.Nisarg</blockquote>

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