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<blockquote data-quote="Lichtenhart" data-source="post: 1727592" data-attributes="member: 761">If that's what you said since the beginning, than we didn't understand each other and we perfectly agree. In fact I said nothing in my posts about &quot;ignoring&quot; their &quot;odious personal habits&quot;. What you just said is quite what I called &quot;helping them find solutions to their problems too, instead of showing them the door&quot;.I was under the impression that we were talking about excluding people because they behaved or smelled in a certain way tout court, without first trying to talk with them and help them getting out of their bad habits.I'm glad to have been wrong.Also, I've never been picked on because of gaming. There is no social stigma to speak of about gamers in Italy, and probably in Europe in general, from what I heard. Our local TV channel once filmed a Vampire LARP of ours and aired it with no slanted commentary, just as a curiosity. I guess the article that generated the thread had a quite different purpose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lichtenhart, post: 1727592, member: 761"] If that's what you said since the beginning, than we didn't understand each other and we perfectly agree. In fact I said nothing in my posts about "ignoring" their "odious personal habits". What you just said is quite what I called "helping them find solutions to their problems too, instead of showing them the door". I was under the impression that we were talking about excluding people because they behaved or smelled in a certain way [i]tout court[/i], without first trying to talk with them and help them getting out of their bad habits. I'm glad to have been wrong. Also, I've never been picked on because of gaming. There is no social stigma to speak of about gamers in Italy, and probably in Europe in general, from what I heard. Our local TV channel once filmed a Vampire LARP of ours and aired it with no slanted commentary, just as a curiosity. I guess the article that generated the thread had a quite different purpose. [/QUOTE]

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