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<blockquote data-quote="Nisarg" data-source="post: 1727665" data-attributes="member: 19893"><p>If it makes them more capable of interacting in society, yes. Its not about my personal standards, its about basic societal proficiency.</p><p></p><p>And no, "individuality" is not measured by how filthy you are or whether you feel the urge to scream at gaming tables, or hit on adolescent girls/boys in gaming shops. Telling you not to do those things is in no way discriminating against your individuality. </p><p></p><p>Your individuality has nothing to do with your capacity to interact in society; its one of the things "nerds" tend not to get, that you can choose to be capable of functioning in society and it won't make you a "sell out" or one of the "mundanes", it will just mean you won't be freaking them out and causing unnescessary strife. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It the people in question are part of my community or culture, then yes. It is my place, because how they act will bear upon how society at large views my community or my culture, it will also bear upon the future of my community or my culture.</p><p></p><p>Imagine you have a village.. now, you get one guy who likes to pee on his front lawn, in public. The village decides its not their "place" to tell him that's unnaceptable. What will happen? </p><p>In a short time, people in other villages and cities will hear about how your village is the one that has lawn-pee-ers. Whatever is good about your village will be overshadowed by your fame for having front-lawn urination considered acceptable in your community (which it isn't in most communities). Eventually, you will have other lawn-urinators coming to live in your village, not because they actually like your village that much, just because they think its a "safe place" to urinate on their front lawns. They feel "accepted" there and not "judged", so they come to your village, and pretty soon your village stops being about what it once was, and starts being more and more about lawn-peeing. </p><p>Eventually, you will get people who think its ok to pee on the front lawns of others. And people who think its ok to do other, worse things on their lawns and the lawns of others, and the whole village is turned into a dump.</p><p></p><p>If you feel like part of a community it is always ok to ask other people who identify themselves as part of your community to live up to certain basic standards, the same basic standards that society at large and most other non-deviant hobbies expect of normal mature human beings.</p><p></p><p>Nisarg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nisarg, post: 1727665, member: 19893"] If it makes them more capable of interacting in society, yes. Its not about my personal standards, its about basic societal proficiency. And no, "individuality" is not measured by how filthy you are or whether you feel the urge to scream at gaming tables, or hit on adolescent girls/boys in gaming shops. Telling you not to do those things is in no way discriminating against your individuality. Your individuality has nothing to do with your capacity to interact in society; its one of the things "nerds" tend not to get, that you can choose to be capable of functioning in society and it won't make you a "sell out" or one of the "mundanes", it will just mean you won't be freaking them out and causing unnescessary strife. It the people in question are part of my community or culture, then yes. It is my place, because how they act will bear upon how society at large views my community or my culture, it will also bear upon the future of my community or my culture. Imagine you have a village.. now, you get one guy who likes to pee on his front lawn, in public. The village decides its not their "place" to tell him that's unnaceptable. What will happen? In a short time, people in other villages and cities will hear about how your village is the one that has lawn-pee-ers. Whatever is good about your village will be overshadowed by your fame for having front-lawn urination considered acceptable in your community (which it isn't in most communities). Eventually, you will have other lawn-urinators coming to live in your village, not because they actually like your village that much, just because they think its a "safe place" to urinate on their front lawns. They feel "accepted" there and not "judged", so they come to your village, and pretty soon your village stops being about what it once was, and starts being more and more about lawn-peeing. Eventually, you will get people who think its ok to pee on the front lawns of others. And people who think its ok to do other, worse things on their lawns and the lawns of others, and the whole village is turned into a dump. If you feel like part of a community it is always ok to ask other people who identify themselves as part of your community to live up to certain basic standards, the same basic standards that society at large and most other non-deviant hobbies expect of normal mature human beings. Nisarg [/QUOTE]
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