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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 1731833" data-attributes="member: 9225"><p>That's how I would characterize people who loudly proclaim their contempt for other hobbyists instead of just gaming according to their tastes. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. Even antisocial people often have varied interests. I work with people who are extremely poorly socialized in my job as an adult educator. Their interests are varied, too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Gaming's fundamental problem is that people game with folks they don't like, and then they bitch about it as if the hobby owes them a social life. That is the essence of facile rants about how awful Those Gamers are. The signal to noise ratio in idiots declaring each other to be antisocial nerds is so high that the real hardcases are easy to lose sight of -- and they don't seem to be any worse than in any other marginal pursuit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't owe gamers a social life and I have no obligation to be community-minded so as to help the community wean itself of its addiction to arranging game sessions in a fundamentally dysfunctional fashion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm quite familiar with academic institutions and I practice Qigong. You are simply exaggerating the relative functionality of those communities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. They all say that, you see. You're just a bunch of pixels from a server, as far as I'm concerned. I have no guarantor of your conduct, good or bad. The thing is, though, that I don't feel the need to really find out and come up with the appropriate hue and cry, because your habits are irrelevant to me. So it is with anyone I won't be gaming with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well no, Nisarg, I just don't think it's anybody's business. To put it in starry vulgarity: I don't give a f***. I game with my friends. I don't game with people I don't like, whether it's because they're stinky, cheaters, dumb, or like George W. Bush. Hell, if they don't care for the EBM our group normally uses for game soundtracks, can't succinctly describe Gnosticism, parse Rick Mercer references or wing dialogue, they'll probably meet the door.</p><p></p><p>And you know what? It bothers me not one whit that there are Cat Piss Men. They're in every hobby. I don't bother with them. I don't even bother with people who aren't CPMs who I just don't feel like gaming with or talking to.</p><p></p><p>Thus, the idea of "enforcing standards" strikes me as an ill-witted escapade that I associate with poorly socialized people desperately looking for some form of camouflage. I don't care about standards that apply to people I will never interact with in any way. I have no need to describe and enforce universal standards. </p><p></p><p>It's lame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 1731833, member: 9225"] That's how I would characterize people who loudly proclaim their contempt for other hobbyists instead of just gaming according to their tastes. Nope. Even antisocial people often have varied interests. I work with people who are extremely poorly socialized in my job as an adult educator. Their interests are varied, too. No. Gaming's fundamental problem is that people game with folks they don't like, and then they bitch about it as if the hobby owes them a social life. That is the essence of facile rants about how awful Those Gamers are. The signal to noise ratio in idiots declaring each other to be antisocial nerds is so high that the real hardcases are easy to lose sight of -- and they don't seem to be any worse than in any other marginal pursuit. I don't owe gamers a social life and I have no obligation to be community-minded so as to help the community wean itself of its addiction to arranging game sessions in a fundamentally dysfunctional fashion. I'm quite familiar with academic institutions and I practice Qigong. You are simply exaggerating the relative functionality of those communities. Yes. They all say that, you see. You're just a bunch of pixels from a server, as far as I'm concerned. I have no guarantor of your conduct, good or bad. The thing is, though, that I don't feel the need to really find out and come up with the appropriate hue and cry, because your habits are irrelevant to me. So it is with anyone I won't be gaming with. Well no, Nisarg, I just don't think it's anybody's business. To put it in starry vulgarity: I don't give a f***. I game with my friends. I don't game with people I don't like, whether it's because they're stinky, cheaters, dumb, or like George W. Bush. Hell, if they don't care for the EBM our group normally uses for game soundtracks, can't succinctly describe Gnosticism, parse Rick Mercer references or wing dialogue, they'll probably meet the door. And you know what? It bothers me not one whit that there are Cat Piss Men. They're in every hobby. I don't bother with them. I don't even bother with people who aren't CPMs who I just don't feel like gaming with or talking to. Thus, the idea of "enforcing standards" strikes me as an ill-witted escapade that I associate with poorly socialized people desperately looking for some form of camouflage. I don't care about standards that apply to people I will never interact with in any way. I have no need to describe and enforce universal standards. It's lame. [/QUOTE]
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