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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 1732713" data-attributes="member: 9225">Well yeah, he did. He said that if you didn't move out by the time you were 24 or so, there was something wrong with you.I'm saying that there is no "good of the hobby." There are no common interests vis a vis the type of people you game with, and I find opbsessing over it to be an odious habit in of itself that is just a facet of the same old struggle for geek cred.I see the GSF quoted all the time.If you're complaining about it in a fashion that does not describe specific cases but appeals to a purported trend, then you are, to be frank, part of the problem with gaming, not the solution. I met precisely *one* purported CPM that lived up to their reputation -- and I guest at cons pretty regularly. The rest are just at the wrong end of particularly juvenile social games.Have I met socially bent folks? Yes I have. Have they ever intruded on my gaming? No. The kind of play I prefer demands mutual trust and a degree of discipline. There are two possibilities:1) There is X (a higher proportion of dysfunctional people in gaming compared to other hobbies) and Y (folks who want to sally forth and stop it).or:2) There is only Y, looking for attention in an odious fashion.One explanation is simpler than the other. It's eminently logical.You'll have to reiterate his points and the fashion in which I've supposedly dodged them in order for this to make any sense to me. You keep making assertions without backing them up with anything but your personal feelings.You must ask yourself now if you are really committed to engaging what I am writing.In any event, my points are simple: 1) By far, the most prevalent instance of social dysfunction in gaming consists of gamers dissing each other by saying that a given gamer/group/scene is lamer than them and theirs. 2) This is far more common than CPMs.3) This happens because people are not picky about who they game with.What was that about an ad hominem again? I was just describing the cure for the 3 tiered problem above. If you believe that it applies to an actual poster, despite the fact that I have not mentioned any poster in particular, and you believe that it is strewn with insults that the actual text does not contain, then this exchange is no longer useful, because you have chosen not to respond to what I am actually writing.</blockquote>

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