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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 1733099" data-attributes="member: 2205">OK, now that I can agree with.I'll take your word for it.And this I can understand as well.  I think, however, that the scope in this thread is not as broad as all that after all.  Nisarg seems to be saying that he doesn't like cat piss man (then again, who really does?) and thinks they bring down the reputation of the hobby to outsiders.  You seem to be saying that you doubt there really are that many CPMs, and the gaming snob tries to establish "geek cred" by being less uncool than CPM is a bigger problem.  I guess now that I understand where you're going, I tend to agree more with you.  Cat piss man is a near mythical creature whereas folks who appear relatively normal (if somewhat nerdy) and who don't smell, yet who are incredibly socially immature and obnoxious are the bane of gamers in my opinion much moreso that a mythical loser who can't find work, can't stand the sun, can't leave his basement, can't find a shower, etc.  I mean, I agree with Nisarg too, but I don't think the problem is nearly as big as he makes it out to be, and in addition, I think it's pretentious to go about "cleaning up the hobby."  I don't do anything much "for the sake of the hobby."</blockquote>