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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9718400" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It explains an insane amount of people's experiences.</p><p></p><p>As someone who accidentally defeated my brain's own ability to scare me via sleep paralysis long ago (as discussed previously on these very boards), and who can induce sleep paralysis reliably, I find it kind of fascinating that so many people are so taken in by it and start believing it to be supernatural/aliens. The physical sensations certainly are remarkable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, do you trust your parents on this, who are presumably 20+ years older than you? Because I would not trust them as a point of principle.</p><p></p><p>My parents are both very sharp but 30+ years older than us kids (I'm the eldest, they had me at 30) and they don't remember a a number of incidents that happened that all of us remember. None of it supernatural (we seem to be a family profoundly immune to the supernatural by and large) or particularly exciting but a lot of it quite important and frankly memorable-seeming, and in some cases, provable with physical evidence. Like, they'd both forgotten that they put my brother and I on a plane without them when we were 8 and 6 respectively, but I still have the bloody ticket and nice thing that you got back then signed by the pilot (this was obviously in the era when unaccompanied kids were allowed to see the cockpit and stuff).</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying your ghost story was real, just like, as a general rule, don't get gaslighted by older people not remembering stuff. Also, in my experience, some older people are good at making up reasons something "couldn't have been true", which, on later examination, turn out to themselves be false.</p><p></p><p>Re: ghosts specifically I have never experienced the slightest damn thing that would support the existence of ghosts, but... enough people I respect and who frankly are smarter than most have had odd experiences that I keep an open mind, hence how I voted.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, it isn't.</p><p></p><p>It's proof that if ghosts existed, they couldn't possibly work by the mechanisms proposed in popular fiction, and it's proof that "vengeful ghosts" of the horror movie kind aren't a thing.</p><p></p><p>I don't really disagree note, but from a logical perspective you are not correct. It merely eliminates one potential way ghosts could work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9718400, member: 18"] It explains an insane amount of people's experiences. As someone who accidentally defeated my brain's own ability to scare me via sleep paralysis long ago (as discussed previously on these very boards), and who can induce sleep paralysis reliably, I find it kind of fascinating that so many people are so taken in by it and start believing it to be supernatural/aliens. The physical sensations certainly are remarkable. I mean, do you trust your parents on this, who are presumably 20+ years older than you? Because I would not trust them as a point of principle. My parents are both very sharp but 30+ years older than us kids (I'm the eldest, they had me at 30) and they don't remember a a number of incidents that happened that all of us remember. None of it supernatural (we seem to be a family profoundly immune to the supernatural by and large) or particularly exciting but a lot of it quite important and frankly memorable-seeming, and in some cases, provable with physical evidence. Like, they'd both forgotten that they put my brother and I on a plane without them when we were 8 and 6 respectively, but I still have the bloody ticket and nice thing that you got back then signed by the pilot (this was obviously in the era when unaccompanied kids were allowed to see the cockpit and stuff). I'm not saying your ghost story was real, just like, as a general rule, don't get gaslighted by older people not remembering stuff. Also, in my experience, some older people are good at making up reasons something "couldn't have been true", which, on later examination, turn out to themselves be false. Re: ghosts specifically I have never experienced the slightest damn thing that would support the existence of ghosts, but... enough people I respect and who frankly are smarter than most have had odd experiences that I keep an open mind, hence how I voted. I mean, it isn't. It's proof that if ghosts existed, they couldn't possibly work by the mechanisms proposed in popular fiction, and it's proof that "vengeful ghosts" of the horror movie kind aren't a thing. I don't really disagree note, but from a logical perspective you are not correct. It merely eliminates one potential way ghosts could work. [/QUOTE]
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